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margo:
Thank you for the help in understanding these scriptures. I understand the Kingdom of God and who will serve and be in it, but I don't understand is if Rev.22:15 is at the time of the new heaven and the new earth and after the great white throne judgement (I thought the great white throne judgement takes care of all the ones not in the Kingdom , 2ND resurrection. My question is why is there still dogs, sorcerers etc. in the new heaven and earth.
Blessings,
Margo
mharrell08:
--- Quote from: margo on March 04, 2010, 03:23:07 PM ---Thank you for the help in understanding these scriptures. I understand the Kingdom of God and who will serve and be in it, but I don't understand is if Rev.22:15 is at the time of the new heaven and the new earth and after the great white throne judgement (I thought the great white throne judgement takes care of all the ones not in the Kingdom , 2ND resurrection. My question is why is there still dogs, sorcerers etc. in the new heaven and earth.
Blessings,
Margo
--- End quote ---
The complete spiritual conversion and salvation is not complete in these passages. You'll notice further along:
Rev 22:14-17 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star. And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.
Not everyone will have taken of the tree of life yet, hence the invitation from Christ and His Elect. The signs & symbols throughout the book of Revelation are not in chronological order.
Rev 7:9-10 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of ALL NATIONS, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes [signifying righteousness], and palms in their hands; And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.
This is early in the book of Revelation, but notice this about the multitude later on:
Rev 20:12-15 I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
Here in Chapter 20, not all 'nations, kindreds, people, and tongues' have been converted, unlike what is pictured in Chapter 7.
Much of Revelation, or as properly translated 'The Unveiling', is the Unveiling of Jesus in US, in the lives of the believers throughout the generations (is/was/will be). There are, of course, symbols that signify the wicked & unbelieving in the Day of the Lord receiving Judgment but they are not shown in any chronological order.
Simply put, if all enemies [Eph 6:12, 2 Cor 10:5] are not put under Christ's footstool [1 Cor 15:25, Heb 1:13], then it is not the 'end' of the Great White Throne Judgment, which is during the Day of the Lord. Once this is accomplished, 'then comes the end' and Christ puts down all rule & authority [as 'rule & authority' are not longer needed as ALL are saved], and God the Father is 'All in All' ['I shall be to them a God, and they shall be My people'...Jer 7:23, Ezek 34:30, Zech 8:8, 2 Cor 6:16, Heb 8:10, Rev 21:3]
Hope this helps,
Marques
Kat:
Hi Margo,
When Jesus Christ returns to earth with the Elect His rule and reign will bring about the "new heaven and a new earth," this is the throne of God, His kingdom the "new Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God." Mat 6:10 "Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, On earth as it is in heaven."
Then will be the resurrection of the dead and all will be found guilty, because they are raised in their sins as they were when they died and these are the "dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves and practices a lie" from verse 15. Christ will have taken over rulership of the earth, it will become as a Lake of fire, "for our God is a consuming fire" (Heb 12:29). All in this resurrection of the dead are cast into this Lake of fire, which is the earth. But their judgment will be a process and that will take time to purge and cleanse them, that's what Christ's reign is for. Here are several verses that describe that time.
Isa 11:9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all My holy mountain,
For the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD
As the waters cover the sea.
Isa 26:9 With my soul I have desired You in the night,
Yes, by my spirit within me I will seek You early;
For when Your judgments are in the earth,
The inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
margo:
Thank you both Marques and Kat. Wow, this is amazing truth that I did not understand. I am so thankful that Our Lord is allowing me this truth. I am sure I will have many more questions. Just in the last three or so years the Lord called me out of Babylon and my eyes have been opened and I now have ears to hear. All Praise and Glory to Jesus Our King.
Love to all of you,
Margo
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