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Marky Mark:
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Ecc 3:21 Who is knowing about the spirit of the sons of humanity, Whether it is ascending above, And the spirit of the beast, whether it is descending below to the earth?
Ecc 3:22 So I saw that there is nothing better for a man than that he rejoices in his works Since that is his portion; For who can bring him to see what shall come after him?

I wonder if we can ask ourselves if the above verse could have a higher level of  Spiritual understanding in what the Word is trying to convey.

I liken the ascending above to fall in line with the elects position of dwelling in a higher Spiritual realm or heaven [as in the mind of Christ] than those that dwell in a lower Spiritual realm which would be those that still worship the beast[those of the earth and the sea]. It would seem on the outset that only the Lord would know who are His. Only He would know who have left the earth in their Spiritual walk and now are in the Spirit ascending above the earthly walk, which would be a carnal way of thinking,just as the babylonian churches which make up the earth.

Just a thought.


Peace...Mark

Deborah-Leigh:
I  think you and Kat together have identified something quite wonderful Marky Mark.

1Co 2:12  Now, we have not received the spirit of the world but the Spirit who comes from God, so that WE can understand the things that were freely given to us by God.

Not to completely take this into another direction but to include - What are the things freely given to us by God? EVERYTHING.

If we understand the Sovereignty of God, that we do not have a free will, then it means that we can accept, understand and rejoice in the fact that we are counted as those who HAVE received the Spirit of God as we understand that EVERYTHING is given to us FROM HIM.

So we can know that we have the Spirit of God. We do not just have the Spirit of God as others have the Spirit of God sustaining their lives and in whom everything has its being. No. It is much more intimate than that. 

Can we recognize and apprehend and hold onto the fact that because the Spirit of God has opened our mind to receive the fact that He is in control and causing everything that we cannot cause or make happen, then that acknowledgement tells us WE have the Sprit of God. The I/you that has the Spirit of God is that part of me/you that is conscious, awake, alert and alive. The soul.

If I tell you I have the Spirit of God…does it mean I possess God as His controller and ruler? No! It means that God has freely given me His Spirit and HE, God Who is Spirit,  dwells with me. He loses nothing to give His Spirit to me and awaken me to the fact that His Spirit is given freely.
The Spirit of God understands God.  So whoever understands God, has His Spirit!

Well we can discern from this exactly who does and who does not understand God.
 
If you understand that there is no such thing as free will, that God is the cause of EVERYTHING, and that ANYTHING you have in the way of EVERYTHING that can be owned or enjoyed or experienced, is from God…..then guess what…..you/WE have the Spirit of GOD!

To confirm this:

1Co 2:9  But as it is written, "No eye has seen, no ear has heard, and no mind has imagined the things that God has prepared for those who love him."
1Co 2:10  But God has revealed those things to US by His Spirit. For the Spirit searches everything, even the deep things of God.

Arc

Phil3:10:
To all,
What a great post, you guys have really hit the nail on the head concerning GOD'S spirit. It is freely given but must be spiritually discerned. Would it not be most glorious if all could understand that everything is of GOD. The deep things of GOD is what we spiritually need to be searching for as they are not easily found. This site and the contributions of all has helped me so very much in my spiritual development.
My thanks to all who contribute to this forum. I never found this fellowship in the walls of the churches I have attended.
In HIM,
Phil3:10

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