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Roy Coates:
No Debate, I misunderstood This question."2. I don't know why you would think Christ was not always a man."
Because we know before He was a man he was. I didn't mean to imply he was anything ther than a man/male but Spirit prior to bith by Mary.
I agree that "He possessed femininity"
My line of thinking was albiet it was based on a misunderstanding was
: I don't know why you would think Christ was not always a man[human]? Because He wasn't always human.
Sorry for the confusion
Dave in Tenn:
Hi Gallenwalsh. I don't think anybody can answer 'what is the nature of God' in a forum post. But maybe this will nudge you decently.
Male and Female created He them. He created humanity to be male and female. Despite what theology says, God doesn't create things out of nothing. He creates things which are 'seen' out of that which cannot be 'seen'. What is it that cannot be 'seen'? Spirit is what cannot be 'seen'. God is Spirit. God created 'male and female' out of Himself. How could He create 'female' or 'male' except He possessed 'femininity' and 'masculinity'?
Ray talks about this in greater detail and with fuller scriptural proof, but I can't remember where. Maybe another member does and will post. There's not only more to it 'doctrinally', but much more to it Spiritually, the surface I'm just beginning to scratch.
Roy, I know you weren't talking of Christ being literally 'female' before He became flesh.
Just one more thing I want to share. We can discuss the Nature of God all day long. We can strive to know God better and better. These are good things. But on this path to 'enlightenment', somewhere, somehow, we have to do what they did in Scripture. Time after time, when THEY finally recognized Him more fully, they fell down and worshipped Him. When we see Him as He is, that's when life begins to change. This has to happen in Spirit and in Truth, not visibly, or 'religiously'. We have precious little idea how big and smart our God is.
Joel:
Its easy for me to think of God as Spirit, and Jesus as the Word.
I and My Father are ONE.
Can you separate yourself from your word?
God thinks, and speaks Jesus the Word to us.
The letter or the Word kills, add THE SPIRIT to the Word and it makes it alive.
Of course Jesus was, and is the Word make flesh.
We all think in our words, in our minds before we speak don't we? :)
unless, maybe we are running off at the mouth. :-[
markn902:
--- Quote from: mharrell08 on March 08, 2010, 04:18:41 AM ---
--- Quote from: Roy Coates on March 08, 2010, 12:05:38 AM ---I thought prior to His birth via Mary that Jesus was not a man. Please expound on this I am curious
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Or rather 'male'...what do you believe He was before He was made flesh? What scriptures refer to Him as female?
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I took that question as being not about gender but rather about WHAT Jesus was before he became a Human Person. Before He was born to Mary what was HE? What did He exist as? and what did He do?
I'm not answering this question just clarifying it. I'll leave the answering to someone else...
mharrell08:
--- Quote from: markn902 on March 08, 2010, 07:10:46 PM ---I took that question as being not about gender but rather about WHAT Jesus was before he became a Human Person. Before He was born to Mary what was HE? What did He exist as? and what did He do?
I'm not answering this question just clarifying it. I'll leave the answering to someone else...
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I don't really understand what or if there is a question anymore and who is asking. Where is this going again, for clarification sakes?
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