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lauriellen:
hi everyone,
been re-reading alot of Ray's material, and in particular "12 God given truths to understanding Gods Word"......had a question....several times Ray mentions this scripture:
1Co 10:11 Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world (age) are come.
it got me to really thinking, are we really near the "end" of this age? Has Ray taught on the subject of where we might actually be in the sequence of God's plan for the ages? is there any way we can know? i used to believe we were looking for all the signs of revelation, but know i know that it is all symbolic and to be lived out by believers who are past, present and future.....soooo....
just wondering about that......would be nice if it were near....seems so far off sometimes.....get tired of saying to myself "someday".....guess just wishing it were someday already.... :-\
thanks,
lauri
Kat:
Hi Lauri,
Each one of us are but one breath away from the return of Jesus Christ, because we really don't know when we will take our last breath in this life. When we die our next conscious thought will be the resurrection, so the return of Christ could potentially be very near for any of us. So we really should think that any day could actually be the day we raise up to meet Christ at the resurrection, being that we do not know the day we will die.
Mat 24:42 Watch therefore, for you do not know what hour your Lord is coming.
v. 43 But know this, that if the master of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched and not allowed his house to be broken into.
v. 44 Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.
Here is an email from Ray.
http://www.forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,1603.0.html ------
What I personally believe doesn't amount to an ant hill. What we need to know is what God believes. Let me give you a LAW that you can live with: "If the Church teaches it, it is probably not true." Remember that. Jesus didn't say that "faith would increase" before He came. Jesus asked if there would be ANY FAITH AT ALL when He returned. I wish that all of you could come to our September Conference in Mobile, as I am going to really hammer home what the Bible says is really important for us to know and do. Too many people are interested in prophecy and all for the wrong reasons. If you can come to understand what it is that God desires of us, we don't need to care one iota as to when the "end" is coming. I virtually never ever think or talk or teach about WHEN the end of this age is, but rather WHAT it is that we need to be doing before it comes, and what we will be doing after Christ returns.
God be with you,
Ray
lauriellen:
thanks kat, that answered my question about Ray's teaching on the subject. ;)
" If you can come to understand what it is that God desires of us, we don't need to care one iota as to when the "end" is coming. "
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i guess i need to focus on the above quote....just seems like i have had my nose buried in studying and learning EVERYTHING i could cram into my head the last year, begging God for understanding, and now that i have "some" understanding, i feel like i don't fit in this world anymore...i feel like i woke up one morning and am an alien here....i don't really know what i am supposed to do with this new understanding.....for sure nobody else in my family wants to here about it (lol)....i will look up the conference notes Ray mentions above and hopefully will get some direction. thanks again for answering my question.
lauriellen
judith collier:
lauriellen, boy do I remember that feeling!! Now what am I suppose to do!! judy
Marky Mark:
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--- Quote ---lauriellen, boy do I remember that feeling!! Now what am I suppose to do!! judy
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Here's a start. :)
1Th 4:10 And, truly, you are lovers of all the brothers in Macedonia; but it is our desire that your love may be increased still more;
1Th 4:1 Moreover, brethren, as you learnt from our lips the lives which you ought to live, and do live, so as to please God, we beg and exhort you in the name of the Lord Jesus to live them more and more truly.
1Th 3:12 Now may the Lord cause you to increase and superabound in love for one another and for all, even as we also for you,
1Th 3:13 to establish your hearts unblamable in holiness in front of our God and Father, in the presence of our Lord Jesus with all His saints."
Php 1:9 I pray that your love will keep on growing because of your knowledge and insight.
Php 1:10 That way you will be able to determine what is best and be pure and blameless until the day of Christ.
Col 1:9 For this reason we also, from the day we first received these tidings, have never ceased to pray for you and to entreat that you may be filled with a clear knowledge of His will accompanied by thorough wisdom and discernment in spiritual things;
Col 1:10 so that your lives may be worthy of the Lord and perfectly pleasing to Him, while you exhibit the results of right action of every sort and grow into a fuller knowledge of God
Eph 1:17 For I always beseech the God of our Lord Jesus Christ--the Father most glorious--to give you a spirit of wisdom and penetration through an intimate knowledge of Him,
Eph 1:18 the eyes of your understanding being enlightened so that you may know what is the hope which His call to you inspires, what the wealth of the glory of His inheritance in God's people,
Eph 1:19 and what the transcendent greatness of His power in us believers as seen in the working of His infinite might
Peace...Mark
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