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aqrinc:
--- Quote from: Ricky on April 27, 2010, 09:18:19 AM ---Hello, I have a question on this one, what if God does not cause you to pray. What would that mean? His will is still going to happen minus what you don't pray for cause you wont get it if you don't pray for it. Is that correct?
Bless you all Ricky
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Read the excerpts that Marques put up above, a few time, the answers are there for your question already.
george :).
mharrell08:
--- Quote from: Ricky on April 27, 2010, 09:18:19 AM ---Hello, I have a question on this one, what if God does not cause you to pray. What would that mean? His will is still going to happen minus what you don't pray for cause you wont get it if you don't pray for it. Is that correct?
Bless you all Ricky
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Hello Ricky
Are you trying to say, if no one prays for God's Will to be done, will it get done anyway? I think Ray explains best:
Things that God knows WILL HAPPEN, don't JUST happen without His sovereign direction. Therefore, some things would never happen unless you PRAY for them. Ah, but that is where I lost you and most others as well. I repeat: Some things would never happen unless you PRAY for them to happen. Does that mean that if you had NOT PRAYED for them they would NOT have happened. Exactly. Isn't that what I just said? Well then, just how can God KNOW what will happen if you DON'T pray for something to happen that He knows MUST HAPPEN? Whether it happens or doesn't happen in this case all hinges on WHETHER YOU PRAY FOR IT OR NOT. So how can God know FOR SURE? If God WANTS something to happen through a prayer of yours, and God KNOWS that something will happen IF YOU PRAY for it, guess what? GOD WILL SEE TO IT THAT Y-O-U D-O P-R-A-Y F-O-R I-T! And this is exactly what God teaches in the Scriptures. Now can you see and understand it?
Here's another example:
1Co 1:21 "For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe."
Now then, FOUR things need to happen for this Scripture to come true.
1. People must "believe."
2. Therefore God must give these people "faith."
3. They must hear the needed preaching.
4. God must provide for "the foolishness of preaching" through people like me.
One other note, prayer is not always a request or petition from the Lord. It's simply communicating with the Lord...we don't have to always 'ask' for something. We can simply let Him know what's on our minds & hearts...like one would with their physical father, mother, mentor, confidant, etc.
We would not talk to these people to only ask for something, we would talk to them for good company's sake. The same holds true for our God & Savior.
Marques
chuckt:
--- Quote ---To me, that means our prayers, and not just the answers, are part of His will.
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i like that and it speaks volumes.
1Th 5:17 Pray without ceasing.
1Th 5:18 In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you.
inlove
chuckt
claypot:
For it is God who works in us to DO and to will of His good pleasure. This just can't be stressed enough.
cp
soberxp:
--- Quote from: mharrell08 on April 27, 2010, 09:38:45 AM ---
--- Quote from: Ricky on April 27, 2010, 09:18:19 AM ---Hello, I have a question on this one, what if God does not cause you to pray. What would that mean? His will is still going to happen minus what you don't pray for cause you wont get it if you don't pray for it. Is that correct?
Bless you all Ricky
--- End quote ---
Hello Ricky
Are you trying to say, if no one prays for God's Will to be done, will it get done anyway? I think Ray explains best:
Things that God knows WILL HAPPEN, don't JUST happen without His sovereign direction. Therefore, some things would never happen unless you PRAY for them. Ah, but that is where I lost you and most others as well. I repeat: Some things would never happen unless you PRAY for them to happen. Does that mean that if you had NOT PRAYED for them they would NOT have happened. Exactly. Isn't that what I just said? Well then, just how can God KNOW what will happen if you DON'T pray for something to happen that He knows MUST HAPPEN? Whether it happens or doesn't happen in this case all hinges on WHETHER YOU PRAY FOR IT OR NOT. So how can God know FOR SURE? If God WANTS something to happen through a prayer of yours, and God KNOWS that something will happen IF YOU PRAY for it, guess what? GOD WILL SEE TO IT THAT Y-O-U D-O P-R-A-Y F-O-R I-T! And this is exactly what God teaches in the Scriptures. Now can you see and understand it?
Here's another example:
1Co 1:21 "For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe."
Now then, FOUR things need to happen for this Scripture to come true.
1. People must "believe."
2. Therefore God must give these people "faith."
3. They must hear the needed preaching.
4. God must provide for "the foolishness of preaching" through people like me.
One other note, prayer is not always a request or petition from the Lord. It's simply communicating with the Lord...we don't have to always 'ask' for something. We can simply let Him know what's on our minds & hearts...like one would with their physical father, mother, mentor, confidant, etc.
We would not talk to these people to only ask for something, we would talk to them for good company's sake. The same holds true for our God & Savior.
Marques
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I agree with you,Marques.such things has happen to me,not for my pray,but for others,so others pary what happened to me,god let me do something for the prayer,that's gods way.
truth
soberxp
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