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gnostic universalism
Dave in Tenn:
Seems to me any time we 'affiliate' we find ourselves either defending or distancing ourselves from all those pesky other people who claim the same affiliation.
Gal 1:10 For am I now seeking the favor of men, or of God? or am I striving to please men? if I were still pleasing men, I should not be a servant of Christ.
Servant of Christ? I'm content to accept the 'new name' He's giving me. He is God, after all.
Joh 8:31,32 Jesus therefore said to those Jews that had believed him, If ye abide in my word, then are ye truly my disciples; and ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
I like being free. One thing I am free from is theological affiliation. It's possibly of some value to short-hand an answer like, "I believe in Universal Reconciliation", but, like all theological terms, it's confusing and inadequate. What 'we' believe doesn't fit on a bumper sticker. It doesn't even fit on a one-page 'creed'. Thank the Lord it doesn't.
Linny:
Same here. I can't put myself into any box without having to fit that mold. Since I don't fit into any mold, I refer to myself as a Jesus follower.
And like one of our bright members said once that I LOVE and have stolen,
1) I believe in the sovereignty of God and 2) I believe that Jesus died for the sins of the whole world.
Yes, the church also thinks they believe this (even though they do not) so I won't get any lip! :D ;)
GinaMilan:
Maybe this will help a little:
http://bible-truths.com/lake11.html
TO WHICH CHURCH DO I BELONG
When asked, "Ray, which church do you attend, what denomination do you belong to?" I always give them the same answer as I will now give you. I tell them that I am not a member of, neither do I attend any institutionalized church of men and that includes all the Churches of Christendom.
I am a member of: "The Body of Christ—The Church of the Living God."
And that's all I say. Well, that and that I'm probably like the baby toe or something. ;D
daywalker:
Universalism - the theological doctrine that all men will finally be saved or brought back to holiness and God.
To get technical, yes, we all here are 'universalists' because we believe in the salvation of all. However, there are many branches of beliefs within the 'universalist world' that are unscriptural, and many of them we know, and Ray has exposed some of their heresies. Ray is definitely 'not partial' when it comes to exposing blasphemies. :D
Therefore, as others before me have said, it's better not to give ourselves a 'title'.
If someone asks me what I believe I say "I believe that Jesus Christ is the Savior of the World". If they ask me if I go to church I say "No. Because unlike them I actually do believe what I just said."
Daywalker 8)
--- Quote from: dre91 on May 16, 2010, 09:15:18 AM ---Im not stuck on titles or labels. In my opinion ive grown pass that. I was just wondering because we believe in universal restoration, does that make us universalists or christian universalist? I was reading one of rays emails and some one called him a gnostic. I dont know much about gnosticism except it comes from the greek word gnosis which means "to know". I read an article where a guy called himself a gnostic universalist. If we are universalist then thats what we just are.
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dave:
I like that Daywalker.
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