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heb 4:12???
GinaMilan:
Triune nature?
Welp! Gotta run................
;D
wisdom:
Lol.......... I understand. .........but why aren't moderators commenting? Nobody else has any comment on the above scriptures or have you commented too much already. If that's the case please provide me with the link or index, God bless.
GinaMilan:
Oh, haha! Have I said too much? What? Too many notes? That's cute!
I can only imagine why they haven't commented. haha...maybe they're sleeping... maybe they're busy... maybe they perceive, like I do, that this person you're having a discussion with regarding the "triune nature of man" is trying to "defend" their views because they don't believe that God is in the process of makING mankind in His image and they only want to engage you in a worthless debate? And maybe the mods and the others don't have any desire to go down that road, because they know it's of no value when the matter is already settled? I really can't say... your guess is as good as mine.
Anyway, per your request ;) here are a couple of links to help aid you in your own studies:
http://bible-truths.com/kennedy2.htm
http://bible-truths.com/twelve.htm
(Do a search in those documents for "soul" "spirit" and "body.")
Here's a link to the entire site: http://www.bible-truths.com/
I hope that helps and I hope you have a good night, Wisdom.
wisdom:
Thanks gina I really appreciate your help and have a goodnight also.
mharrell08:
--- Quote from: wisdom on May 18, 2010, 11:48:22 PM ---Lol.......... I understand. .........but why aren't moderators commenting? Nobody else has any comment on the above scriptures or have you commented too much already. If that's the case please provide me with the link or index, God bless.
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FYI: http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,11605.0.html
Wisdom,
Sometimes it takes a little time for members to respond, for whatever personal reasons we all may have.
Now regarding the 2 verses you bring up: How does your friend establish his/her point that this 'proves' that humans are made up of a 'triune nature'?
All humans have the 'spirit of life' [Gen 2:7] in them, otherwise they would be dead. But the scriptures also speak of humans having 'a' spirit in them.
Sometimes these 'spirits' are spirits of righteousness:
2 Cor 1:21-22 Now he which stablisheth us with you in Christ, and hath anointed us, is God; Who hath also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts.
Eph 3:16-17 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man; That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith...
Others we are told are of wickedness:
1 Kings 22:22-23 the LORD said unto him, Wherewith? And he said, I will go forth, and I will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And he said, Thou shalt persuade him, and prevail also: go forth, and do so. Now therefore, behold, the LORD hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the LORD hath spoken evil concerning thee.
Isa 19:14 The LORD hath mingled a perverse spirit in the midst thereof: and they have caused Egypt to err in every work thereof, as a drunken man staggereth in his vomit
So what does this mean regarding the scriptures in question?
Heb 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
The writer is being as spot-on as can be...a 'discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart'. He is not talking of dividing the soul from the spirit of life...no, the spirit in the person related to their thoughts and intents. The spirit that Paul spoke of from the scriptures above is the intent of spreading the gospel, a spirit of righteousness. The spirit that the Lord sent amongst the false prophets is the intent of declaring false declarations, in the name of the Lord.
1 Thess 5:23 the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Again, this is concerning 'a' spirit in a person...not pertaining to the spirit of life that all humans have which, with our body, is what makes our souls. Pauls says that he prays that the spirit that works in us be blameless or without fault...a spirit of righteousness. Not a perverse spirit, like 'the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience' [Eph 2:2].
Hope this helps,
Marques
P.S. Members, this is why it is so hard to discuss the scriptures with self-proclaimed Christians. They have assumptions regarding the scriptures, based on their false church doctrine, and it blinds them to the truth. They think they 'see' something being said in the scriptures when it's not said at all. 'A lying & perverse spirit in the midst of them'.
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