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Why did Jesus say "why do you call me good?"
wonderment:
"Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good--except God alone. (Mark 10:18)
I heard a muslim man use this verse as his argument that Jesus was only a prophet and not God.
Kat:
Hi wonderment,
This is from the 09 conference I think it will help you see why Jesus could not have been 'just' a man.
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Luke 18:18 And a certain ruler asked Him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
v. 19 And Jesus said unto him, Why do you call Me good? There is none good, but one, that is God.
Some people would use that to prove that Christ cannot be referred to as God, because He said “only God (speaking of His Father here) is good.” But when He said this, He had divested Himself of all His power and glory, so He was in human form in the weakened state of flesh.
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Could a man, just a man now, be the Savior of the world? See, if you’re going to argue that Jesus Christ was a man, only a man and nothing divine about him, there are all kinds of problems, just philosophically speaking.
Why would He have to be conceived by God? Why? He’s just a man and men are born all the time. So we want him to be of the line of Judah. All right, fine, let’s get a Jewish boy. You get a Jewish boy and Jewish girl, we’ll marry them and they’ll have a baby boy and he’ll be the Savior of the world. Why not?
Think about it. Let’s think about all the words. Why did Jesus have to be conceived by His Father? Why, if He’s just a man. Jewish women have boys all the time. If He had to be something special above a man, then He was no longer ‘just a man.’ Did I say something wrong? If He had to be something more than a man, then He’s more than a man, He’s not just a man.
Is any Jewish boy’s life worth all the billions of humanity combined? Is any Jewish boy worth that? [attendee: No.] How so?
Why didn’t God say, We need a Jewish boy… Jacobson, we’ll use you, we’re going to crucify you and you’re going to save the world that way. -- ‘Me?’
Yeah, what do you do for a living? -- ‘I’m a carpenter.’
Yeah, that will do. You’re a carpenter, okay. We’ll kill you and that way I’ll save the whole world. -- ‘Of what value am I that my life is worth more than the whole world of humanity, billions of people?
What would God say? Well yeah, you’re worth more than the rest of humanity put together. -- ‘How so? Why?’
So why was He conceived by God? If God wanted a man He could have chosen any man. If He wanted him to be born of a virgin… fine, he could be born of a virgin. But why did He have to be conceived by God Himself? WHY?
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Hebrews 10:28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
v. 29 how much worse punishment, do you suppose, shall he be thought worthy of, who has trodden under foot the Son of God, and has counted the blood of the covenant, (that’s the blood of Jesus Christ) wherein He was sanctified, an unholy thing…
“An unholy thing” is the word ‘koinos’ (Strong’s 2839) it means common, something that is shared by all or several.
In other words, just a man, same as any other man, common. It is also translated as ‘unclean’ when talking about ceremonial things.
Greek-English Keyword Concordance:
Common, belonging to all equally, by implication, NOT SACRED, contaminating (“to make common”).
Vines Concise Dictionary of the Bible:
Koinos - common, ordinary; belonging to the generality as distinct from something that is peculiar.
So it is, woe be if you consider the blood of Jesus Christ to be like any other man’s blood. Yet one man told me that ‘His blood was no better than mine.’ Whoa, I would fear to even think something like that, let alone say it.
He was not common. He was not what is shared by everyone. It says
Php 2:7 …and took upon Him the form of a servant…
Rom 8:3 …God sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh…
Heb 2:7 You made Him a little lower than the angels;
He took on the form of a servant and He was made like unto sinful flesh and He was made a little lower than the angels… it’s not talking about somebody who came out in a natural childbirth. He was MADE. The scriptures say He was “made a little lower (or for a little while lower) than the angels.” WHY? So He could die!
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Heb 2:8 Thou hast put all things in subjection under his (humanity) feet. For in that He put all in subjection under him, He left nothing that is not put under him. But now we see not yet all things put under him (under humanity).
v. 9 But we see Jesus, who was MADE…
You see that word, He was MADE. He wasn’t always that way. He had to be MADE that way. Now, if He were just a man born of a woman, He wouldn’t have had to be made anything. Any man born of a woman will die. “It is appointed unto all men once to die,” but the only way Jesus could die was that God had to MAKE Him lower than the angels, so that He could die. Are you following me? Does it make sense? That Jesus was not ‘just’ born, before He got to the process of actually being born. He had to be MADE something else from what He was. WHY? Because what He was, He couldn’t die. God didn’t force this on Him. We learn all through the scriptures, Jesus Christ ‘volunteered.’
John 10:17 Therefore doth my Father love Me, because I lay down My life, that I might take it again.
v. 18 No man takes it from Me, but I lay it down of Myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again.
He said nobody takes My life. God the Father did not say, I’m going to sacrifice You, come hell or high water and You aren’t going to have nothing to say about it. He said, “I lay down My life,” “I” do it, He says. He volunteered.
So, He was made a little lower than the angels for or because of the fact that He had to die.
Hebrews 2:9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honor; that He by the grace of God should taste death for every man.
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mercy, peace and love
Kat
aqrinc:
According to these Scriptures and many others, Jesus Christ Is God, so He Is The Good Master. That question was asking; Why call me Good Master, unless you know I am God, because Only God Is Good.
1Sa 2:2 (BBE)
No other is holy as the Lord, for there is no other God but you: there is no Rock like our God.
1Sa 2:6 (GNB)
The LORD kills and restores to life; he sends people to the world of the dead and brings them back again.
Mar 10:18 (BBE)
And Jesus said to him, Why do you say I am good? no one is good but one, and that is God.
Luk 2:11 (CEV)
This very day in King David's hometown a Savior was born for you. He is Christ the Lord.
Rom 8:9 (CLV)
Yet you are not in flesh, but in spirit, if so be that God's spirit is making its home in you. Now if anyone has not Christ's spirit, this one is not His."
From: WHO AND WHAT IS JESUS? & WHO IS HIS FATHER? . Nashville Conference 2007
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,4472.msg39178.html#msg39178
the section was taken from the Nashville notes]
"There is ONE GOD" (I Cor.8:5); "God is SPIRIT" (John 6:24);
"by ONE SPIRIT baptized into one body" (I Co. 12:13);
"But he that is joined unto the Lord IS ONE SPIRIT" (I Cor. 6:17); "I and My Father are ONE" (John 10:30)
"There is ONE BODY, and ONE SPIRIT, even as ye are called in ONE HOPE, of your calling; ONE LORD, ONE FAITH, ONE BAPTISM, ONE GOD AND FATHER OF ALL, Who is ABOVE ALL, and THROUGH ALL, and IN YOU ALL" (Eph. 4:4-6).
HENCE: WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT JESUS, WE KNOW ABOUT HIS FATHER
Jesus spoke the words of His Father and did the works of His Father (John 14:10 & 14:24 & 5:19).
Jesus Christ "declares the FATHER" (John 1:18). And reveals the Father to whomever the Son desires (Matt. 11:27). Jesus was revealing the Father to the disciples His whole ministry, but Phillip missed is: (John 14:9-11). Remember when Jesus said, "Before Abraham was, I AM"? (John 8:58). He was also revealing HIMSELF as the God of the Old Testament.
Jesus Christ IS THE GOD OF THE OLD TESTAMENT!
He is THE GOD OF THE BIBLE!
Jesus Christ is the ONLY REVELATION OF GOD THAT WE HAVE.
Even the Holy Spirit we all have comes from God THROUGH Jesus Christ.
Jesus is that Comforter, that Spirit.
Our Saviour and our Brother.
The Son of God.
george :).
soberxp:
son of man and son of god.
G. Driggs:
Jesus is humble and gives all the credit and glory to His Father.
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What is the gospel of the kingdom?......Mobile conference 05'
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,6142.0.html
HUMBLE YOURSELF
I have read you what God has in store for us. A kingdom of priests, royal, kingly, holy, Godly nation, special precious people unto God. Judges, saviors, sons of God, lords, kings, you don’t get lifted any higher than that in the universe in all eternity ever. That the pinnacle, that’s it that’s the ultimate height.
Now notice what James says.
James 4:10 Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and He will lift you up.
You’ve got to be humble, it’s of paramount importance.
But be careful how you judge people. You know I can raise my voice, I can even be a little sarcastic and some people think that is haughty. But they don’t know me and that’s alright. Sometimes when they go a little overboard on that, I copy and paste from my ‘Jesus Christ to the Pharisees.’ Where I just take out all the terms - hypocrites, lying two faced, blind guides, generation of snakes and I send it to them. I say do you think Christ is humble? “Well yea, He was.’ So you can lift your voice and call a spade a spade and still be humble? ‘Well He can, but you can’t.’ Oh okay, but I thought we were suppose to be like Him? Christ is the anointed and guess what? So are we, we are the anointed, Christ lives in us. We are the heavens of the Father's dwelling place.
A friend of mine wrote a book, about how to leave church without leaving God or something like that. He sent me the manuscript before it went to press. I said to him, you can’t say these things, I mean it had some really foul language. I said you can not use language like that, it won’t fly. I said to him, Paul said don’t let any filthy communication come out of your mouth (Eph. 4:29). Do you know what his response was to me? Well I’m not Paul and I don’t claim to be Paul. But what does the gospel of Paul say? Follow me as I follow Christ. We are suppose to be like Paul. That’s not humble to say, well I’m not Paul or I’m no Christ. As He is so are we in the world. Isn’t that what John said,
1 John 4:17 …because as He is, so are we in this world.
Peter said He left us an example, that we walk and we follow in His footsteps.
1Peter 2:21 For hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for you, leaving you an example, that ye should follow his steps:
I mean we don’t even walk beside or behind Him, but in the same steps.
Mat 23:5 But all their works they do to be seen by men.
James 4:10 Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and He will lift you up.
Mat 18:2 And Jesus called a little child to Him and set him in their midst,
v. 3 and said, Truly I say to you, except you are converted and become as little children, you shall not enter into the kingdom of Heavens.
v. 4 Therefore whoever shall humble himself like this little child, this one is the greater in the kingdom of Heaven.
Humility, God loves humility. When you see how weak you are, then God can show how strong He is. But if you are the 99 that don’t need saving, you won’t be saved.
Christ said…
Mat 9:13 For I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance.
That's tongue and cheek. There are no righteous, just those that think they are righteous.
Jesus said…
Mat 11:28 Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
v. 29 Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am meek (Greek there is gentle and humble) and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.
Jesus Christ was gentle and humble.
Somebody just made the comment once to Him, they said “good master” and He said whoa whoa slow down.
Mat 19:17 So He said to him, "Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God.
Don’t call Me good. I mean if Jesus Christ says don’t even call Me good, that humility. Because it isn’t that He didn’t know He did everything right and good, He just didn’t take credit for it. It was all of God.
Come unto Me for I am gentle and meek and lowly and you shall receive rest unto your souls.
Some people are in turmoil, they are in constant turmoil, they are not happy. Why? They are striving, they want to be happy. Happiness it’s out there… it’s up there… it’s in the future, but they don’t have it.
I was going to talk today about who wants to be happy. But this one was going to be too long, so I scratched it. It was going to be either the one on the destiny of women or who wants to be happy. Happy lost.
Be humble, be teachable, read it, see it, believe it, do it.
I don’t assume that everything I teach is automatically perfect. Certain things I know, I know when I’m on safe ground, I know. I mean I’ve been around the block a few times and I’ve repented before God. I understand spiritual principles, but I don’t claim to know it all. But when you live by the Word, then you understand the doctrine.
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G.Driggs
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