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JOb 1: 6 The sons of God
daywalker:
--- Quote from: octoberose on May 25, 2010, 09:23:16 AM ---I've been looking up who it is believed that the sons of God are in Job. They come to be presented before the Lord, and Satan comes among them. I'm not satisfied with the speculation I've found on who this is. Can any of you illuminate me?
Thank you
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Outside of the Book of Job, every place in scripture in which the phrase "sons of God" is found is in reference to humans...
Search for exact phrase "sons of God" in English Standard Version using eSword resulted in 11 found [3 in Job]:
Gen_6:2; Gen_6:4; Deu_32:8; Job_1:6; Job_2:1; Job_38:7; Mat_5:9; Luk_20:36; Rom_8:14; Rom_8:19; Gal_3:26;
I know of no place in scripture that "angels" are referred to as "sons of God". Though, we do have this statement from our Lord:
Luke 20:34 And Jesus said to them, "The sons of this age marry and are given in marriage,
35 but those who are considered worthy to attain to that age and to the resurrection from the dead neither marry nor are given in marriage,
36 for they cannot die anymore, because they [humans] are equal to angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection.
Whether He's saying that the 'they' are like angels--who are sons of God--or the 'they' are like angels and [in addition to that] are sons of God; I don't have an answer for ya... but maybe someone here does... ???
Daywalker 8)
Kat:
Job 1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.
The Septuagint, οἱ αγγελοι του θεου - the angels of God. The Chaldee, כתי מלאכיא kittey malachaiya - troops of angels.
Actually I think the answer can be found right there in the book of Job as to who these "sons of God" are. In chapter 38 "the LORD" is answering Job and He speaks of how He was the one responsible for preforming the wonderous works of creation.
Job 38:1 Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind:
v. 2 "Who is this that darkens counsel by words without knowledge?
v. 3 Gird up your loins like a man, I will question you, and you shall declare to me.
v. 4 "Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth? Tell me, if you have understanding.
v. 5 Who determined its measurements--surely you know! Or who stretched the line upon it?
v. 6 On what were its bases sunk, or who laid its cornerstone,
v. 7 when the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
So we can see that there is a reference in the same book that seems to be speaking of a time when these "sons of God shouted for joy," because they witnessed the very foundations of the earth being laid and I think we can safely say there were no human beings at that time. So this is an assembly of His angels that were rejoicing at the glorious creation of the universe.
Now we do also have another account in the Scriptures of a very simular incident in 1 Kings.
1Kings 22:19 And Micai'ah said, "Therefore hear the word of the LORD: I saw the LORD sitting on His throne, and all the host of heaven standing beside Him on His right hand and on his left;
1Kings 22:21 Then a spirit came forward and stood before the LORD, saying, 'I will entice him.'
So here there is "the host of heaven" spoken of, these heavenly angels/messengers gathered before the Lord. It's just easy to see how these to separate Scriptures are speaking of the same thing. Hope this is of some help.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
octoberose:
Thank you so much. You did a lot or work to answer that question and I really appreciate it.
wisdom:
So the sons of God are angels and the son of man are humans or Jesus Christ I'm confuse can someone explain, thanks.
Kat:
Hi wisdom,
Actually I think it depends on the context and also what the writer is referencing. Take for instance the term "sons of God" in Job, what we have been discussing does seem to be referring to angels. But in Genesis 6 the term "sons of God" is referring to men. So it's not so clear cut and simple.
Here is an email about the sons of God in Genesis 6.
http://bible-truths.com/email12.htm#angels --------------------------------
Hello Sir,
Could you please shed some insights about the fallen angels in Genesis Chp6 1-7. Apparently it goes to say, there was too much wickedness on earth that it grieved God.
I am a bit confused about that. I believe God is ALL KNOWING so why did He got so grieved and decided to wipe these people off the face of the Earth with the exception of Noah.
Your explanation would be greatly appreciated if you have time
God Bless and Stay Blessed
Abed
[Ray Replies]
Dear Abed:
Thank you for your email and questions.
Gen. 6 has absolutely NOTHING to do with "fallen angels." The "sons of God" and the "daughters of men" is not speaking of mortals and spirit beings. This is just another one of Christendom's fables.
Jesus plainly told us that,
"Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the Scriptures, nor the power of God., For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage [why? why aren't they given in marriage? Answer....] ...but are AS THE ANGELS of God in heaven" (Matt. 22:30).
The angels CANNOT MARRY (they have no 'marriage apparatus' if you know what I mean). Yet we are told in Gen. 6:2, that "they took them WIVES of all which they chose." To have a "wife" one must be "MARRIED." The sons of God and the daughters of men are BOTH HUMAN.
I believe that verse 4 of Gen. 6 is a terrible translation in the King James. Since most translators have bought into the 'angels fornicating with women' theory, most of them have a very strange translation of this verse. There are whole words in this Hebrew verse that are not even translated at all in most versions.
Notice this translation from the Concordant Version:
"Now the DISTINGUISHED come to be in the earth in those days, and moreover, afterward, coming are those who are sons of God to the daughters of the human, and they bear for them. They are the MASTERS, who are from the eon, MORTALS with the name."
Sorry I don't have time to explain the meaning of all these verses, but at least I want you to know that this is not a case of angels fornicating with women.
God be with you,
Ray
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