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Deborah-Leigh:
Dear Margo

I appreciate that you are grateful for the edification and correction of the faulty insertion of words that are not in God’s Word and that you value the link to help deepen your knowledge of our God.

Blessings to you

Arc

daywalker:

--- Quote from: GinaMilan on July 03, 2010, 10:30:15 AM ---No physical rituals saves spiritually, but a physical fasting is not carnal or oppressive, necessarily, and even though we know that Jesus' words are "spirit," they're not spiritual when money and prayer are being spoken about, curiously enough (that's always the "real" deal!  haha!).  But it's how they, at that time, were fasting that Jesus said should be done in a way that wasn't like the "hypocrites" which do appear to men to be fasting, but really were only disguising their faces.

I hope that helps a little.

Again, great question!
Gina

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Hello Gina--

I'd have to respectfully disagree: fasting is indeed "carnal" and "oppressive" as it does nothing for a person, spiritually. Neither does physical circumcision, physical baptism, or observing the Jewish Sabbath. These are all physical "shadows" of spiritual things.

Secondly, you say that the words of Jesus are "not spiritual" when referring to "money and prayer" but that they're "the real deal" ...as if "spiritual" is UNreal ??? How are Jesus' teachings about money and prayer not "spiritual"? It's not the physical money that is "a root of all evil" but the greed and envy and thirst for power--all from within the human heart--that can be influenced by having lots of money. As for prayer, I just don't understand why you suggest that it's not spiritual?


Jesus didn't say "some of the words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life", He said,

"The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life."


If you could kindly explain what you meant, I would appreciate it, thank you.

Christopher.

Dave in Tenn:
Chris, Gina's name is in black.  She's not currently a member of the forum and can't answer you. 

Deborah-Leigh:
Hi Christopher

Gina can't answer you but she can read you. :)

I think your approach was better than mine.

Maybe Gina was just trying her best and expressing thoughts untrained in the diciplines of the Scriptures.

It had to hurt, yet she might be blessed never to make that mistake again. I prefer to think so. Gina did not have to leave. The mistakes we can make can be far bigger than
anything Gina may or may not have thought she did wrong.

We are all here to learn. It hurts to make mistakes and it cuts when we are exposed, chastised, circumsised in our hearts or being baptised by fire. It hurts, it doesn't kill us though.  :)

Arc

daywalker:

--- Quote from: Dave in Tenn on July 06, 2010, 08:21:08 PM ---Chris, Gina's name is in black.  She's not currently a member of the forum and can't answer you. 



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Yea, I read her other post afterward. Sorry to see her go...

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