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Daughter wants to go to church
mharrell08:
--- Quote from: G. Driggs on July 14, 2010, 08:17:42 AM ---So God in His infinite wisdom has put my daughter in a place I am very uncomfortable with, so what can I do? Am I making a mistake by allowing her to go there? Or am I right in thinking that maybe this would be best in the long run so that she will be in a position to be called out her? Or is it enough that IF God is saving me, He will also save my entire household? I understand no one here can tell me what to do, so if anyone has Scripture for me to consider that would be cool.
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G. Driggs,
I'm going to approach this a little different. What is the difference in the attitude displayed above and all the many 'witnessing' Christians in the church? Isn't this the same logic the church uses to support witnessing from home to home? That one must be convinced 'by them' of the truth? Do you see what I'm getting at?
We trust that God will reconcile all the many adults we know/see in the world, but can lose sight of this with our own children. I have 2 daughters myself, and I am just as bad. Ultimately, we have to trust that God will lead them, in His time for them, not our own.
With my daughters, I am not concerned with teaching them doctrine. The Lord has me focused on teaching them the building blocks of what the true gospel is. In other words, more importance is placed on obeying the gospel instead of just having the knowledge of what it is.
As Christ said, to love the Lord will all one's heart, mind, & soul as well as love thy neighbor (and enemy) as thyself is the fulfillment of the law [Matt 22:37-40]. Staying humble, giving to others without regard for self, trust the Lord to lead you to the best path for you (even when the path seems uncomfortable/unsettling), repenting of your character flaws & mistakes instead of making excuses for them, honoring mother & father, etc. With these in her heart, she will grow to produce much spiritual fruit including an understanding of the gospel, I believe.
Hope this helps,
Marques
daywalker:
I'm not yet a daddy, so I'll give you some feedback from the perspective of a teenager, since I have much experiment in that category :D
Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.
- Proverbs 22:6
Teach her the truth in accord with the Scriptures, but don't "push" them on her. Ask if she's willing to do a bible study with you, whether its daily, weekly or just whenever. Be sure to explain thoroughly why you believe what you do, and not just "well the bible says this so therefore it's true..." Build a strong spiritual foundation for her to stand on, and then let her make up her own mind where she wants to go; and know that God is in control of the situation at all times.
Hope this helps a bit.
Daywalker 8)
--- Quote from: G. Driggs on July 14, 2010, 08:17:42 AM ---My 12 year old daughter has begun going to the local Baptist Church recently, not for services but to "play games". She goes there because her new friends go there and I guess they really enjoy it. I think it is a matter of time before the Pastor begins preaching to her, so I told her not to just believe anything anyone tells you, but study for yourself and look up words in the dictionary to see if they are true. She knows how I feel about the doctrine of hell, and that the church has it all wrong, so she was a little hesitant in telling me what she was up to. I thought about forbidding her to go, but then I remembered this is how I first met Jesus, and how will she be able to leave her "first love" and be called to "come out of her" if she was never in Babylon to begin with?
Whats interesting is I had been praying for her to get some relief from some girls that had been bullying her, and that she would also get some new friends because she was feeling pretty bummed out and complaining she had no friends. Now the girls who were bullying her have become her friends and she gained a new friend whom she is very close to and she happens to go to that church. So God in His infinite wisdom has put my daughter in a place I am very uncomfortable with, so what can I do? Am I making a mistake by allowing her to go there? Or am I right in thinking that maybe this would be best in the long run so that she will be in a position to be called out her? Or is it enough that IF God is saving me, He will also save my entire household? I understand no one here can tell me what to do, so if anyone has Scripture for me to consider that would be cool.
As to the original posters question about telling loved ones I no longer go to church, I tell them I do not believe in hell and all their other false doctrines, and that I will never be deceived by them again.
G.Driggs
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Samson:
--- Quote from: daywalker on July 14, 2010, 06:37:39 PM ---
I'm not yet a daddy, so I'll give you some feedback from the perspective of a teenager, since I have much experiment in that category :D
Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.
- Proverbs 22:6
Teach her the truth in accord with the Scriptures, but don't "push" them on her. Ask if she's willing to do a bible study with you, whether its daily, weekly or just whenever. Be sure to explain thoroughly why you believe what you do, and not just "well the bible says this so therefore it's true..." Build a strong spiritual foundation for her to stand on, and then let her make up her own mind where she wants to go; and know that God is in control of the situation at all times.
Hope this helps a bit.
Daywalker 8)
--- Quote from: G. Driggs on July 14, 2010, 08:17:42 AM ---My 12 year old daughter has begun going to the local Baptist Church recently, not for services but to "play games". She goes there because her new friends go there and I guess they really enjoy it. I think it is a matter of time before the Pastor begins preaching to her, so I told her not to just believe anything anyone tells you, but study for yourself and look up words in the dictionary to see if they are true. She knows how I feel about the doctrine of hell, and that the church has it all wrong, so she was a little hesitant in telling me what she was up to. I thought about forbidding her to go, but then I remembered this is how I first met Jesus, and how will she be able to leave her "first love" and be called to "come out of her" if she was never in Babylon to begin with?
Whats interesting is I had been praying for her to get some relief from some girls that had been bullying her, and that she would also get some new friends because she was feeling pretty bummed out and complaining she had no friends. Now the girls who were bullying her have become her friends and she gained a new friend whom she is very close to and she happens to go to that church. So God in His infinite wisdom has put my daughter in a place I am very uncomfortable with, so what can I do? Am I making a mistake by allowing her to go there? Or am I right in thinking that maybe this would be best in the long run so that she will be in a position to be called out her? Or is it enough that IF God is saving me, He will also save my entire household? I understand no one here can tell me what to do, so if anyone has Scripture for me to consider that would be cool.
As to the original posters question about telling loved ones I no longer go to church, I tell them I do not believe in hell and all their other false doctrines, and that I will never be deceived by them again.
G.Driggs
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Excellent Response Christopher, actually some very good responses thus far, nothing to add, enough said, ;).
Carry On, Samson.
G. Driggs:
Thank you all for taking the time to comment, lots of food for thought.
--- Quote from: phillip78 ---Have you sat down with her and studied the false doctrines of what they teach? If not, it would be a good idea to start. If you don't they they will start filling her mind with the traditional teachings. Who else better to have a study on these thing? Children can learn truth also.
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No we have never studied together about the false doctrines, but I have told her in the past what I believe concerning hell. Sometimes I will read bible stories to my kids just like my grandma use to do for me, but I have never sat down with them with the intent to teach them what I have learned.
--- Quote from: mharrell08 ---I'm going to approach this a little different. What is the difference in the attitude displayed above and all the many 'witnessing' Christians in the church? Isn't this the same logic the church uses to support witnessing from home to home? That one must be convinced 'by them' of the truth? Do you see what I'm getting at?
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I think I see what your getting at Marques, and I totally understand that only God can convince her of anything. Maybe I was just worried for nothing.
I totally agree the only way to teach them is by example, as this is the very thing I have been praying to God about lately, to enable me to walk the talk.
Thanks again everyone, I appreciate it.
Peace
G.Driggs
judith collier:
Amen to everybody who posted! Nobody forcing the child, then listening to the child, respecting the child, that's what I always looked for in adults. That's love, the God kind! judy
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