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Water bearer?
Chris R:
Hi Daniel,
And I say to you, Every one -- whoever may confess with me before men, the Son of Man also shall confess with him before the messengers of God,
To confess "WITH HIM... before the messengers of God.
The word Confess: [homologeo] "to say the same thing as another" The same act of both..Christ and those who confess Christ among men.
Chris R.
rocky:
--- Quote from: Chris R on June 30, 2006, 09:45:43 PM ---No doubt you will find 3 or 4 verses that have "five husbands" in them, and spin it into a spiritual lesson also.
Chris R
--- End quote ---
Sounds like the O'Reilly Factor, "no spin zone". :)
Daniel:
--- Quote from: Chris R on June 30, 2006, 10:36:20 PM ---Hi Daniel,
And I say to you, Every one -- whoever may confess with me before men, the Son of Man also shall confess with him before the messengers of God,
To confess "WITH HIM... before the messengers of God.
The word Confess: [homologeo] "to say the same thing as another" The same act of both..Christ and those who confess Christ among men.
Chris R.
--- End quote ---
Obviously to CONFESS WITH HIM Chris.
What point do you think I missed other then a word "with" that is obvious? The same word also means not to deny
Titus 1:16 They PROFESS that they know God; but IN WORKS DENY HIM being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.
One can DENY HIM by their WORKS, so SAYING "LORD, when did we SEE YOU"? (Not DOING) Came down to the what YOU DID unto the "least of these my brethren, you did (or did not do) unto me".
When I was a STRANGER,
entertain strangers for doing so some have entertained ANGELS unawares (WHEN did we SEE YOU?)... And you received me (Paul said) as an ANGEL as Christ Himself.
Then again, the rest is just as I see it
Peace
Daniel
Chris R:
Daniel,
Perhaps this may be obvious to you, but to some reading these posts, perhaps not.
I'm at a lost as to exactly your meaning of these scriptures, but thought at least, a small explanation was in order.
The thread was concerning a pot of water carried by a unknown man, and were he entered in.
To which my reply was did this man literally carry a pot of water, and did he enter in a literal place?
To which you replied : Chris, have you considered that understanding is the wellspring of life and the Son of God is come to give us this understanding? Thats within ourselves. Afterall it wells up in our inmost being unto "eternal (or whichever word one chooses to use) life", and thats to "Know God".
What is "within ourselves"
And, who can "know God" [Rom 11:33] O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable [are] his judgments, and his ways past finding out!
Chris R
orion77:
We are to compare spiritual with spiritual, when we take some scripture and compare it to the physical alone, we can miss some deeper meaning. This is the whole purpose of this thread.
When we take the words that Jesus spoke in Mark 14: 12-16 and only see the physical attributes of these verses, which I admit are great, we miss the spiritual comparison. It is a very grand and great thing to acknowledge our Lord in seeing these things in advance, and they come true physically. Wow, we say, that is beautiful, tis our Lord. Yet, we know that our Lord is the Alpha and Omega, knowing the beginning from the end, so we no longer see Him after the flesh and carnal or physical miracles. The truth is much deeper than what we see or hear with our eyes and ears, it goes into the spiritual reality, which far exceeds the physical.
There is no need to bring up scripture after scripture to give one a clear understanding of these things. Although it can be done, but the Spirit testifies to our spirit.
When we get past what we physically see and hear, and truly not see any man in the flesh, we can not be deceived into listening to our own fleshly mind, desires and wisdom, then the Spirit comes reality, which the spiritual reality is where we will live anyway in the future. This is what separates us from the majority.
He said, we shall do greater works than He did. To the carnal mind, how is this possible? But, to the Spiritually minded, His words are true. There is alot more to the miracles Jesus did than just to see the physical aspects. All the prophets and what they said and did are for our ensample. Christ life itself is for our ensample, even more so. Healing the sick, changing water into wine, forgiving sins, raising the dead, etc., are grand and great things, yet they speak of even greater Spiritual things than what is on top. Surely we can see this.
God creating man in His image, sending His own Son to suffer in our stead, showing us the Way, the right way to treat our fellow brethren and sisters, is far more miraculous than any physical miracle He ever did. Now, us seeing and knowing of these things, to turn around and love our neighbors as He loves us is even more miraculous. This is what it is all about, we either see it or not. Still, no matter what we believe, His will be done.
God bless,
Gary
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