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Water bearer?
mercie:
--- Quote from: Chris R on July 01, 2006, 09:01:16 AM ---
--- Quote from: mercie on July 01, 2006, 04:37:25 AM ---Gary.
This thread has moved on since i read it last.
as I see things Rocky touched on the purpose of the Water pitcher , as Christ Turned water to wine at the Wedding, I can see a connection of through his Blood we become righteous Born anew in him
As Chris R mentioned, was This Man a Holder of LIVING water , the answer would be No.
We understand that Shadows are not the reality .
I just threw in those additional Connections as I can see Christ as the TRUE water Piticher who LETS DOWN living water to those who thirst.
Let down can be seen as the Living word being given.
ieGenesis 11:7 -
Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech.
Trying to keep posts short and give food for thought in such few words can be confusing.
At times cant win for trying ???
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Hi Mercie,
It is true that Christ gives us living waters, i just fail to see this in the verses mentioned. If the entire chapter is read, there are mountains of "spiritual" truths within. The miracles of Christ and his knowledge of the commings and goings of all men, are in itself the spiritual message in these few verses.
Chris R
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Hi Chris R.
yes, One is Not disputing that the water bearer in This chapter is " livingWater " .
YellowStone:
I'm joining this thread a little late, but maybe I can offer a different line of thought.
Mar 14:13
* And He sent two of His disciples, and said to them, Go into the city. And you will meet a man carrying a pitcher of water. Follow him.
Unless I am grossly mistaken, was not water carrying (in the physical sense) a woman's job and not that of a man? If this is true, then would not have the two disciples have easily identified the "man"? So, then would it not also fit that Jesus had made prior arrangements with the owner of the house?
I do see a spiritual parallel here. That Jesus considered he himself as a water carrier goes without question.
Jhn 4:10
* Jesus answered and said unto her, If thou knewest the gift of God, and who it is that saith to thee, Give me to drink; thou wouldest have asked of him, and he would have given thee living water.
So too, has not Jesus not beseeched God the Father and prepared in advance the way for us?
The question is, who is the water carrier in the spiritual sense. Not a literal water carrier, but someone or something that stands out from the crowd.
I have my own thoughts on this, but I know we all came to this Bible-Truths site and forum for a reason. :)
Much love to you all.
YellowStone
Chris R:
Hi Yellowstone,
Is there living waters in the pitcher? obviously not... does this verse have a spiritual lesson concerning the living water, How so?
There are many verses that speak of the living waters that Christ gives, none of these verses hide the the living water in a pitcher, why is this?
If all that is ever written in the scriptures concerning water is meaning living waters, what a confusing contradictory book it would be. as we would then have to apply living waters to over 600 scriptures?
This is why Christ told the women ,But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst;
Did Christ himself need living water?...."After this, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the scripture might be fulfilled, saith, I thirst." [ john 19:28] what spiritual lesson is to be observed in Christs words, concerning "I thirst" is it "living waters" the he needed, is it not Christ himself that Gives us living waters?
Is it so impossible for us to beleive the Son of God could know exactly when and were this man carrying a pot of water would be, at the exact time his disciples came into the city? Does Christ need a prior arrangement?
if so, i dont see it written, and therfore cannot speculate.
Christ plainly told his followers that "I Am The Way" [Jhn 14:6] He didnt hide this message in a man carrying a pitcher of water, why would he?
I'm confused as to why so many wish to make a pitcher of water, a Spiritual lesson of the "living waters".
When these spiritual waters are stated in other scriptures NOT as drinking water at all!
But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst... this is the spiritual lesson concerning "living waters".
Peace
Chris R
YellowStone:
Good morning Chris, I gave this a lot of thought since my first post and I agree that there is no reference, real or implied to living waters. So I will repost my message with the reference removed.
Repost - For Clarity
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Mar 14:13 - And He sent two of His disciples, and said to them, Go into the city. And you will meet a man carrying a pitcher of water. Follow him.
Unless I am grossly mistaken, was not water carrying (in the physical sense) a woman's job and not that of a man? If this is true, then would not have the two disciples have easily identified the "man"? So, then would it not also fit that Jesus had made prior arrangements with the owner of the house?
So too, has not Jesus not beseeched God the Father and prepared in advance the way (place) for us?
The question is, who is the water carrier in the spiritual sense. Not a literal water carrier, but someone or something that stands out from the crowd.
I have my own thoughts on this, but I know we all came to this Bible-Truths site and forum for a reason.
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Chris, does this make my point a little clearer. It was not my intent to inflame or upset and for this I apologize.
God is love,
Yellowstone
mercie:
Chris
Jhn 7:37 In the last day, that great [day] of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink.
Jhn 7:38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.
No Biggy.
we KNOW Christ is The living Water.
As im sure you know Similtudes run through out scripture .
As the layers reveal themselves we learn more of the spiritual lessons within
Take Lazurus and the Rich man, how many consider this A parable.?
Ihave no problem whatso ever in seeing Christ as a Spiriitual TYPE of Pitcher who lets down His living water for those who wish to drink.
Sgs 4:15 A fountain of gardens, a well of living waters, and streams from Lebanon
Jer 17:13 O LORD, the hope of Israel, all that forsake thee shall be ashamed, [and] they that depart from me shall be written in the earth, because they have forsaken the LORD, the fountain of living waters.
Christ spirit which Is the wellspring of Understanding.
Pro 16:22 Understanding [is] a wellspring of life unto him that hath it: but the instruction of fools [is] folly.
Pro 18:4 The words of a man's mouth [are as] deep waters, [and] the wellspring of wisdom [as] a flowing brook.
1) spring, fountain
a) spring
1) of source of life, joy, purification (fig.)
b) of the eye (fig.)
c) source (of menstruous blood)
d) flow (of blood after child birth
As Daniel breifly mentioned , welling up within unto eternal Life.
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