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Joel:
Hi Booker,
Ray has explained the subject of the trinity and the Godhead, IMO better than anyone I know.
Colossians, 2:9-10
For in him dwelleth ALL the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:
Trinitarians can quote Matthew 28:19 all day long, and whether it is a spurious scripture or not doesn't matter to me.
What is the name OF the Father?
What is the name OF the Son?
What is the name OF the Holy Ghost?
Everything must focus on Jesus Christ, the Son of the Living God, or it doesn't amount to a hill of beans.

Joel

soberxp:

Holy Father (true?)
+
the son of God   (true?)
+
Holy Spirit  (true?)
=
true+ true+true=true
still one,but specific one.

Deborah-Leigh:

--- Quote from: soberxp on August 24, 2010, 01:03:46 AM ---
hi Arc

Holy Father (true?)
+
the son of God   (true?)
+
Holy Spirit  (true?)
=
true+ true+true=true
still one,but specific one.

--- End quote ---

Hi soberexp

There is no trinity. Non + Zip+ Zilch = Nowhere any trinity and no third ghost :)


Remember that Paul said we no longer know Christ according to the flesh. And Christ never appeared to the Apostles after Pentecost IN THE FLESH.  Christ went back to the Father, but He said He would not leave us comfortless, but that He would send a comforter. He also said that it would be the "spirit of truth" and that it came TO Christ from the Father and now it IS CHRIST'S to do as He will with it.

Then who or what is this comforter, this 'parakletos'?  God's Word tells us. John is the only writer who uses this word 'parakletos.' So where else does he use it?  I John 2:1:

"My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not.  And if any man sin, we have an advocate [Greek: PARAKLETOS!!!] with the Father, JESUS CHRIST the Righteous" (I John 2:1)!!!

There it is! Jesus Christ IS THE COMFORTER. Jesus Christ IS THE PARAKLETOS!

When we receive the Comforter it is CHRIST, IN SPIRIT [no longer according to the flesh]! IT IS CHRIST THAT COMFORTERS US THROUGH HIS SPIRIT WHICH JOHN PLAINLY TELLS US HE RECEIVED FROM HIS GOD AND FATHER! It is THEIR [the Son's and the Father's] SPIRIT that comes in us! No trinity here! No trinity anywhere! http://bible-truths.com/email17.htm

No Trinity ANYWHERE!

Arc

soberxp:
 ;) okay,I understand your point.
from what i knew,the word "Trinity " is what pastor used to explain there is one god for Jesus IN THE FLESH at that time,right?  8)

P.S the word "Trinity "  is comparison,if the word "Trinity " helps people to understand there is only one god,I don't think this is false teaching, the word "Trinity "  is comparison. god(truth?)Jesus(truth?)holy Spirit(truth?) if god is truth,what's the different about any truth from god?

Deborah-Leigh:


--- Quote ---what i knew,the word "Trinity " is what pastor used to explain there is one god
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Joh 14:28  Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for My Father is greater than I.

Pastorial theology confuses for it holds the spirit of confusion and false teaching.

2Ti 1:7  For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

It is sad but true, that the leaders  of unsound doctrines are in the Church and God has made them blind. Jesus says....

Mat 15:14  Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.

Arc

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