New Member from Seattle

[Sincere Christian]

Hello Everyone,

I am encouraged to have found this message board. I hope everyone is doing well. I have been a committed Christian for 30 years, and really love God deeply, as well as people. While I always remain hopeful for the church, I have come to the understanding of how deeply Christans have changed. I am hoping to form friendships here, as well as exchange truths from God's word. Thank you.

[Kat]

I'm glad you have joined us  

This little place is for those of us that have come out of the church and now are studying the truth we find at the Bible-truths.com site and need fellowship with like minded people. We have learned that it's not so much that the church has changed, but their basic doctrines were flawed and unscriptural from the beginning. So we come here to discuss the many articles on the BT site and try to help one another with what is actually in the original Scripture and that might not be what we have in a Bible tranlations. So do get yourself familiar with the teachings we stand with here and if you have any questions we are happy to help you.

Here are links that can help you see what we have available here at the forum.

Check out the forum rules, it will help you understand how this forum is moderated.
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,3.0.html
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Child board for General discussion board - FAQ
(most frequently asked questions)
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child board on Off Topic board
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mercy, peace and love
Kat

[soberxp]

Hello Everyone,

I am encouraged to have found this message board. I hope everyone is doing well. I have been a committed Christian for 30 years, and really love God deeply, as well as people. While I always remain hopeful for the church, I have come to the understanding of how deeply Christans have changed. I am hoping to form friendships here, as well as exchange truths from God's word. Thank you.

well said. glad you have joined us 

[Sincere Christian]

Thank you. Yes, it is true that, for centuries, the Christian church has had wrong doctrines. I meant that it has changed greatly in the last one or two decades, at least in terms of kindness, love, and related, as I do remember it being much better as recently as the late 1990s. Anyway, I am really eager to get to know everyone here. It will probably take several weeks to familiarize myself with the website. I am here also, to help others as best as I can.

[iris]

Welcome to the forum!!!


Iris

[Sincere Christian]

Warmest greetings dear Sincere Christian. It is so wonderful that you too have been drawn here. There hasn't been a day I haven't been abundantly blessed by the kind and helpful folks represented here. It is truly a home of love and learning.
I hope I haven't given Satellites a bad name .
Could there be a more beautiful expression of God's magnificent handiwork? We spent Saturday picking blueberries right up against the backdrop of Mt. Si in North Bend. A perfect day and a peaceful place to reflect on the greatness of God.
Good to have you here.
Blessings my new brother/sister?

Hi Janine,

Thank you. Wow, there are already people from Seattle answering me. I live in Bellevue. I was gone for ten years and moved back in January. I did not get to find any strawberries, and so far, the farm fresh blueberries were not sweet yet. Anyway, I have found that patience in finding solid Christians works, because I hope everyone here is like I am, a true Christian. I have not found it here in WA, even in what is referred to as "house churches".  I am not able to find true fellowship yet, but God will work it out.

[Deborah-Leigh]

Welcome to the Forum!

Blessings

Arc

[Sincere Christian]

Yes, and I prayerfully made an exception, and sought out some churches here near Seattle. God showed me to even stay away from house churches, due to the fact that they treated me far worse than standard churches. Looking back on my life, it is clear, that I have grown much more deeply, when not "in a church" than in one.

Moving back here, plus having a temporary disability, plus being engaged, I believed that it was necessary to form some new friendships here.

Everything followed the same pattern. I carefully spoke to leaders, and at first, they were nice and sweet, and gave me all kinds of promises, etc. Then, over time, once they could see my love for God, and for souls, and the inner peace and relationship with Jesus, they became either very indifferent and avoided me, or in some cases, filled with venom and immense cruelty.

This was a great blow to me, as I love Bellevue, and Seattle so much. The churches I chose were all much better than most, but, in reality, were all the same.

When a Christian is treated vastly better by worldly people, who do not know Jesus, than the "Church", it is so grievous.


More another time, 

[cherokee]

Hey Sincere,

Welcome to the forum.

Blessings,
Suzie

[Shawn Fainn]

Welcome!

[Samson]

Yes, and I prayerfully made an exception, and sought out some churches here near Seattle. God showed me to even stay away from house churches, due to the fact that they treated me far worse than standard churches. Looking back on my life, it is clear, that I have grown much more deeply, when not "in a church" than in one.

Moving back here, plus having a temporary disability, plus being engaged, I believed that it was necessary to form some new friendships here.

Everything followed the same pattern. I carefully spoke to leaders, and at first, they were nice and sweet, and gave me all kinds of promises, etc. Then, over time, once they could see my love for God, and for souls, and the inner peace and relationship with Jesus, they became either very indifferent and avoided me, or in some cases, filled with venom and immense cruelty.

This was a great blow to me, as I love Bellevue, and Seattle so much. The churches I chose were all much better than most, but, in reality, were all the same.

When a Christian is treated vastly better by worldly people, who do not know Jesus, than the "Church", it is so grievous.


More another time, 

Hi Sincere Christian,

                            Glad to see that God navigated your way to this Site. I appreciated that last sentence in your above Comments: " When a Christian is treated vastly better by Worldly people who do not know Jesus, than the Church, it is so grievous." Ray explains the distinction between HIS(Jesus) Church-God's Chosen Elect or The Elect of God and THE Church- The believers throughout the Church Denominations of Christendom He instructs us to get out of Her my people if You don't want to share in Her sins, because Her Sins have reached to Heaven, Rev. 18:4,5.

                            I remember Ray making reference to an Email received by a believer in one of His Audio's, it might be Despising The Word of God Audio where this individual looking for common ground with Ray stated: " You believe that Jesus is the Savior of the World, don't you." Ray's response was: " I believe that Jesus IS the Savior of the World, but you don't." 1 John. 4:14. The point Ray was making in His reply was the guy only believed Jesus would  Save a certain percentage of Mankind, that Jesus was either incapable of saving all of Mankind or He didn't want to. However, Jesus was sent or commissioned TO BE the Savior of the World and since Jesus is God, to do less than saving everybody would fall short of why He was sent by God the Father. Jesus saves the world and He's good at completing His purpose and will not fail one person regarding the completion of His task. 1Tim. 4:10; 1Tim. 2:3-6; 2Peter.3:9; Isaiah. 46:10,11; 1John. 4:8; 1Cor. 13:8; Matt. 18:11; John. 1:29.

                            Just a friendly suggestion, you might want to read or listen to Despising the Word of God and read What Happened to the Church Jesus Built By Ray. They help to explain the difference between HIS(Jesus) Church and THE Church.

                                   Glad you joined, Samson.