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1Co 6:12-13 All things, unto me, are allowable, but, not all things, are profitable: all things, unto me, are allowable, but, I, will not be brought under authority by any. Foods for the belly, and the belly for foods; but, God, will set aside, both it and them.
Believers certainly are not under any dietary laws as Christ fulfills all!! I can eat any kind of meat I wish or any kind of drink without offense. But of course (and it almost go's without saying) that neither would I want anyone to stumble because of my menu and I probably wouldn't serve pork to a jew or muslim either. ;D But even though all is lawful for me to partake of my expanding waistline was telling me that I was partaking a little too much. And to be frank I was pretty ignorant of the various additives in foodstuffs today as well as how certain combinations are kind of at odds with each other in digestion, ect. It's been said before but as long as nobody tells someone else that this is what you must do then I don't think their is a problem. The proof is in the pudding as they say, oh drat!! Can't have that, too much sugar. ;D
judith collier:
Mark, just wondering about col: 2 vs 23
The last thought, "but are of no value against the indulgence of the flesh"
Paul didn't know as much as we do about the body. When a person is continually indulging with food and drink as in a Habit or Addiction, the flesh is more apt to control them. Sloth and glutton and drunkeness can lead to other sins.
Judy
Dave in Tenn:
--- Quote from: Judy on September 10, 2010, 09:27:08 PM ---...Sloth and glutton and drunkeness can lead to other sins.
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...as can fixations on the physical, and following/enforcing prohibitions on this and that.
Since we're using scripture here, this is by far my favorite 'verse' on the topic.
Rom 14:17a For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink...
which follows Paul's dissertation on 'meat and drink' (which really has application far beyond meat and drink). Like any good two-edged sword, this one cuts both ways into the hearts of both 'glutton' and 'aesthete/legalist'.
"Glutton"...the kingdom of God is not meat and drink...
"Legalist"...the kingdom of God is not meat and drink...
Of the two--'gluttony' and 'aestheticism/legalism'--I have no doubt which is the worse, but we're being judged to obey ALL the word of God, and that is one rip-roaring, idol-crushing, straight-path-finding, yoke-sharing life as we continue to learn and be judged.
So before anybody complains, I'm not accusing anybody who has been named or participated in this thread of anything. I'm just continuing the conversation. I'm sure we all believe and know that the kingdom of God is not meat and drink. Ray put it this way on the front page: "...let it be known that Ray trusts in God for any healing, not in supplements." As far as I'm concerned, that is the same as saying "...the kingdom of God is not meat and drink..."
If some--'gluttons' and 'prohibitionists' alike--don't yet know that the kingdom of God is not meat and drink, then no doubt one day they will "learn" that the kingdom of God is not meat and drink.
I doubt John9362 anticipated a simple question could elicit two pages of responses. If we each shared all our other collective knowledge on the subjects of nutrition, eating and drinking, I'm pretty sure we'd never do anything else. There is an awful lot of info out there...some of it is even worth reading. ;)
Since he has had his question answered, and already said his 'thank you', would there be any objection to my closing this thread? I have no doubt we'll all get another chance. ;)
Roy Martin:
We might as well not eat anything from a grocery store because all of it is tainted and will cause just about every kind of illness. If you think organic is safer, then perhaps you should do a sincere deep study. Organic is safe only when you grow it yourself, or you get it from a trusted friend. Nothing from a store is safe, but I simply don't let these things bother me.
I know this topic is light banner, but knowing the truths about food sources really doesn't do us much good because we can't do anything about it except avoid the sugar, drink less coffee, less salt, etc, but all processed food is killing us.
Trying to go by what everyone or anyone has to say about what we should and shouldn't eat, will drive you crazy.
Peace
Roy
Samson:
--- Quote from: Roy Martin on September 11, 2010, 05:40:27 AM ---We might as well not eat anything from a grocery store because all of it is tainted and will cause just about every kind of illness. If you think organic is safer, then perhaps you should do a sincere deep study. Organic is safe only when you grow it yourself, or you get it from a trusted friend. Nothing from a store is safe, but I simply don't let these things bother me.
I know this topic is light banner, but knowing the truths about food sources really doesn't do us much good because we can't do anything about it except avoid the sugar, drink less coffee, less salt, etc, but all processed food is killing us.
Trying to go by what everyone or anyone has to say about what we should and shouldn't eat, will drive you crazy.
Peace
Roy
Good Points Roy,
I have to rely on the grocery store, it boils down to the economics of the whole thing. Regarding your statement, growing it yourself, yes indeed. Our Tomatoes from the garden are so good this year, I don't think I'll be able to tolerate the cardboard tasting store bought ones this winter. Sometimes, it's better we don't know what they do to Our food supply, especially at Meat Processing plants. I really don't want to know, because my main food source is derived from Protein Foods.
Thanks, Samson.
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