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booker:
--- Quote from: Arcturus on September 24, 2010, 10:18:44 AM ---Seek first the Kingdom of God and such seeking is not in the direction of finding fault, differences or seeming contradictions in the Word of God.
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I think I'm verging on apostasy.It all started with the spurious passages research which led to contradictions(goto youtube and type "Bible contradictions quiz show"),validity(historically,etc.),i mean i don't know if i can trust the Bible anymore.And I've checked out the Apologetics materiel like lee strobel,kent hovind.But their evidence are not convincing.I still believe in the existence of God though,but maybe not as what the Bible portrays him to be.
mharrell08:
--- Quote from: booker on September 26, 2010, 05:36:32 AM ---I think I'm verging on apostasy.
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I don't know if you'll find the cure for that on this forum, or any other for that matter. The membership here is one based on fellowship in the Truth, not attempting to find it.
Take some time to read your bible, use the 12 Truths paper to help in understanding, and then see where you're at. Everyone must put in time to study in order to gain solid understanding.
Kat:
Hi Booker,
So what are you expecting when you are seeking spiritual understanding from the world?
Mark 4:10 But when He was alone, those around Him with the twelve asked Him about the parable.
v. 11 And He said to them, "To you it has been given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God; but to those who are outside, all things come in parables,
v. 12 so that
"Seeing they may see and not perceive,
And hearing they may hear and not understand;
Lest they should turn,
And their sins be forgiven them."
When you listen to the world's explanation of things, you are going to get confused. and even if you explain the truth to them carefully, they can not accept it, because they are blind to the Spirit of truth.
John 14:17 the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you.
So think about where you are spending your time studying, the more you go to the world the more confused you will be.
mercy, peac and love
Kat
Deborah-Leigh:
booker
Ray has said that over ninety percent of the email questions he receives are formulated from the erroneous assumption that the Scriptures contradict. Why is that over 90% of people who write to Ray, assert this false belief? Because God has given them, obscurity in their hearts and the experience of blindness that they should think that they know, but don’t and that they believe that they understand and they are far from it. At least you are feeling the prompting that you are in the wrong understanding regarding the Word of God, and heading into apostasy. That’s a very healthy sign that God is working in your heart, showing you right from wrong and good from evil. :)
The Word of God is mis-translated by false teachers and if you want to really see and understand the Truth, you do need to study the correct expounding of the Word of God that is transcribed from Rays Bible Studies and Conferences not to mention the thousands of pages of insights and wisdom that is expressed in the variety of subjects available for your interest and study. You’re not alone booker. I guess it is something you have to experience, endure and suffer before our Lord gives you His Spirit which is what everyone of us requires in order to understand. No amount of study can get you to understand either. Just look at the string of qualifications that are heralded by the leaders in Babylon with years of study behind their names! Ever learning and never coming to the Truth.
Pray for Wisdom…beg, ask, plead and understand that without the Spirit of God, you’ll not know anything true, liberating and of great value as we here have acquired not through any intelligence or human wisdom but only through the gift of His Spirit we share, treasure and depend upon. Even the act of asking God for anything, requires first that God give you the desire. If it is the Plan of God to put you through the despair and darkness of not knowing His Spirit or understanding His Word, then He shall do that and it will be for the best for your personal education in experience of the dark before the Truth is made manifest to you.
A Catholic Priest once told me I was spiritually squint and that as long as God did not heal me, I would remain as such. He got that right, but failed to give me any encouragement. I hope I haven’t done the same to you. You are on the right path with God stirring in your soul to know apostasy, which few ever come to understand. Kat, Marques, Mark and Joel have provided you much to contemplate and consider in wise council, edification and encouragement.
Arc
grapehound:
Hi Booker,
I've been following this thread with much interest.
I recognise, as I'm sure all other replies do, a common stumbling when first coming to this Forum.
I hung around this site for years and it tore me to pieces, not; but it felt like it did.
When TRUTH is being birthed in you, it's often very painful and confusing.
As you grow, (and you will, whether you like it or not) you will experience these ' brick walls' in your life as part of a natural process. Sometimes you'll feel like you're losing your mind, at other times, you'll break through with laughter and tears.
Have you noticed how often these threads go off topic?
I believe there's a reason.
God is aware of every thought you think. He knows exactly.
You're following a process.
It might not seem obvious now, but watch for it.
The topic starts off as a serious question about a point of scripture or an explanation of Ray's teaching. Then little by little, the layers peel back and underlying reason's come through. Your fellow "Prisoners in Christ" are urged by His counsel to gather around and attend you.
Then pop! the real reason for the post seems to emerge out of the blue.
Interestingly, the original question you posed was around the denying of Christ.
After a few excellent responses, the bubble bursts and we find you're on the edge of apostasy.
Do you see the connection?
Kat was spot on with the advice of not looking to the world.
Maybe at this moment you feel you wanna jump ship; and that's OK. But you'll be back; I know.
For once you have tasted the TRUTH nothing else will quench your thirst.
Your spirit has recognised something here. None of us are here by choice. It's all His will.
And He is 'The Hound of Heaven.'
You can't outpace Him and there is absolutely nowhere to hide; from His love.
You don't know if you can trust His word?
Don't you think He is able to brood over His own TRUTH and protect it from the ravages of man?
That's why He appoints men like Ray.
Imagine the task that God gave Ray when he first began.
Stop feeling sorry for yourself and settle in bro.
It's a jungle out there!
Looking to the world for truth?
The TRUTH is already at your fingertips.
Much love and peace in Jesus.
Grape x
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