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Revelation 11:3...11:10
GaryK:
Rev 11:3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
Rev 11:4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
Rev 11:5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
Rev 11:6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.
Rev 11:7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
Rev 11:8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
Rev 11:9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.
Rev 11:10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.
Can anyone point me to where Ray has explained these verses in more detail? Or a post where it’s been discussed at greater length and referencing Ray's ideas on the matter? My advanced search brought nothing.
Thanks,
gk
mharrell08:
--- Quote from: GaryK on October 04, 2010, 02:07:47 PM ---Rev 11:3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
Rev 11:4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
Rev 11:5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
Rev 11:6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.
Rev 11:7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
Rev 11:8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
Rev 11:9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.
Rev 11:10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.
Can anyone point me to where Ray has explained these verses in more detail? Or a post where it’s been discussed at greater length and referencing Ray's ideas on the matter? My advanced search brought nothing.
Thanks,
gk
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No, Ray has not gone into very much detail with the symbolism of the Two Witnesses. Here are two small excerpts from the LOF series. If he ever feels well enough to continue the LOF series, perhaps he may go into more detail then. No idea if or when that will ever happen.
Excerpt from Lake of Fire Part 1 (http://bible-truths.com/lake1.html):
Chapter 11, Are God’s two witnesses that prophesy, literally two olive trees and two candlesticks? But if we study Zechariah 4 we can determine what is meant by "two witnesses."
Excerpt from Lake of Fire Part 12 (http://bible-truths.com/lake12.html):
(We will explain the symbols of "the beast," "his image," "his mark," "the number of his name," "the man of sin," "the two witnesses," "the second death," "the antichrist," etc., in upcoming installments of this series).
Hope that helps,
Marques
Deborah-Leigh:
Hi gk
Rev 1:1The Revelation of Jesus Christ has to happen within us in its entirety. What kingdom can be complete if it is missing a part of itself?
Luk 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
Psa 119:160 The sum of thy word is truth; And every one of thy righteous ordinances endureth for ever. (ASV)
Yet nothing of the above two Scriptures can be approached, desired or fulfilled without the Spirit of God.
Php 2: 13 For it is God Himself whose power creates within you the desire to do His gracious will and also brings about the accomplishment of the desire.
God is Sovereign, in control of everything as expounded throughout all of Rays writings. Ray has also said that what symbolically happens in Revelations, has to happen spiritually within us.
As for details ~ Marques said it right. :)
Arc
GaryK:
Thank you both.
gk
Kat:
Hi Gary,
There is a lot of symbolism going on in that passage, here are Scriptures that might apply to the "two witness."
Rev 11:3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
v. 4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
Zec 4:12 And a second time I said to him, "What are these two branches of the olive trees, which are beside the two golden pipes from which the oil is poured out?"
v. 13 He said to me, "Do you not know what these are?" I said, "No, my lord."
v. 14 Then he said, "These are the two anointed who stand by the Lord of the whole earth."
Mat 18:16 But if he will not hear, take with you one or two more, that "by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.'
Mat 18:19 "Again I say to you that if two of you agree on earth concerning anything that they ask, it will be done for them by My Father in heaven.
v. 20 For where two or three are gathered together in My name, I am there in the midst of them."
Mar 6:7 And He called the twelve to Himself, and began to send them out two by two, and gave them power over unclean spirits.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
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