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daywalker:

--- Quote from: Akira329 on October 23, 2010, 11:02:33 PM ---Hey Guys,

My father has ask me on numerous occasions to attend his church and just listen and point out errors when they come up.
My first thought was, "this is a set up".
But, I think my dad is trying to get me back in the church to tell them the things I've told him.
I probably would but the judge and jury are still out on whether or not he believes what I'm telling him.

He wants me to sit through one service to judge what I hear.
When I ask him why, he really doesn't give an anwser.

I mean, if I show him from scriptures that a few things are off what would it mean to him?
I have a feeling it wouldn't mean anything.

Right now, I'm unsure of his intentions for wanting me to do this.
I'm even thinking of telling him to record the service and give me the tape.
Which is much better than having to sit through service!

Has this ever come up in any of you all families?

Thanks
Antaiwan

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For about a 5-week period, my mom took detailed notes during Sunday School and/or Worship Service, and emailed them to me. I read through, critiqued them, then sent them back to her. This seemed to help her a ton. Namely, she had always had a hard time with the Rapture theory. I would explain it to her, then show her the verses that prove it wasn't true, then she would understand, momentarily, then later be confused again. But after doing a 14-page critique on a Rapture study she sent to me, she finally was convinced. I can recall the enthusiasm in her voice when she called me and said, "Ya! You are right!"

After that, I did a few more critiques for her, then she stopped sending me them. I haven't asked her why, but there have been some extreme differences in the way she acts (as I've been told by my sister, since I don't live with them any more). My mom still goes to church, but not every Sunday (as she used to); and when she does she normally only goes to Sunday School. Also, she doesn't try to force my sister to go anymore or give her a hard time when she says no (this is a drastic change in my mom who used to act as a general on Sunday mornings, ordering everyone to get ready for Church).

During a few conversations with her about church, she has confessed to me that she mainly goes for the fellowship with her friends. Which is understandable, considering that she's been a single mother most her life.

Anyway, I kinda enjoyed doing those critics, and I found it encouraging that I was able to see the faults in what my old church was teaching and be able to clearly and concisely and scripturally dismiss them. It also increased my desire to keep studying...

though, I must admit, I don't think I'm ready to walk into 'the lion's den' either...  :o ;)


Christopher  8)

Akira329:
Chris thanks for that story!
Thanks to everyone else for some advice on the matter.

Chris your method seems pretty good but takes some work on your mothers part. A part I don't think my dad will do.
I still haven't discuss the matter with him yet.

History also keeps me from doing this. In the past if my dad had a disagreement with some thing about the church he would just find a new church. They were never doctrinal issues though.
There are some things doctrinal wise he doesn't agree with now but still chooses to stay.
I want him to leave.
I also feel like if he does leave he wouldn't know what to do with his life. Church gives people purpose in life to live for it not away from it.

Just all these things running through my mind......

I'm still working through all this.
Thanks guys!

Antaiwan

daywalker:

--- Quote from: Akira329 on November 13, 2010, 01:18:55 PM ---Chris thanks for that story!
Thanks to everyone else for some advice on the matter.

Chris your method seems pretty good but takes some work on your mothers part. A part I don't think my dad will do.
I still haven't discuss the matter with him yet.

History also keeps me from doing this. In the past if my dad had a disagreement with some thing about the church he would just find a new church. They were never doctrinal issues though.
There are some things doctrinal wise he doesn't agree with now but still chooses to stay.
I want him to leave.
I also feel like if he does leave he wouldn't know what to do with his life. Church gives people purpose in life to live for it not away from it.

Just all these things running through my mind......

I'm still working through all this.
Thanks guys!

Antaiwan

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I totally feel ya, man! I want my mom to leave her church too, but I know she won't (at least, not for awhile). It's more the fellowship that she wants I know, but still being there, hearing their teachings only continues to confuse her and I truly believe that she'd be better off mentally and spiritually if she didn't go.

For awhile I tried to push my mom to leave, but I think that kinda backfired so I stopped. I've been praying hard for God to draw her out but so far His answer has been "not yet". I don't know why, but I do my best to trust His judgment. When we have our talks, I share with her what I've learned, and I try to do it in a way so that it doesn't appear that I'm "beating up" her church, yet at the same time showing her the wrongs in what they tell her.

Anyway, obviously, you know your father better than me or anyone here, so you'd know better how to handle your situation. The best advice I can give is that you continue to pray to God for wisdom and the ability to discern how to react in whatever situation He puts you in, so that you know you're doing all you can to help him. Only God can open your dad's mind and heart to listen to what you say... I know you know this already, just saying.

God be with you, bro.

Christopher  8)


(And let's keep in mind, God could actually be testing you, rather than working on your dad at this time)

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