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nightmare sasuke:
--- Quote from: hillsbororiver on July 05, 2006, 04:57:39 PM ---Man only has a temporal power in this age, I believe Jesus was speaking of fearing Him who is eternal and who subjects all things versus fearing them who can only temporarily kill the body/soul.
Remember the Lake of Fire is the second death, no man has any power over whether or not he will be there after the judgement.
Do you think that Jesus was saying don't fear those who can wield death to you now, fear Him who can subject you to the second death?
--- End quote ---
He didn't say they can wield death to our souls now, though, that's the point! If the nephesh that sins dies, then how come as Jesus said, man cannot kill it?
hillsbororiver:
Hebrews 9:27 And it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgement.
Do you think these Words have a spiritual implication or just the the physical?
Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power but they shall be the priests of God and of Christ, and they shall reign with Him a thousand years.
Christ was speaking of the second death, not the first.
Joe
nightmare sasuke:
--- Quote from: hillsbororiver on July 05, 2006, 05:23:08 PM ---Hebrews 9:27 And it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgement.
Do you think these Words have a spiritual implication or just the the physical?
Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power but they shall be the priests of God and of Christ, and they shall reign with Him a thousand years.
Christ was speaking of the second death, not the first.
Joe
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After resurrection, how will this people have the power to kill our body, but at the same time, not the power to kill our soul?
After resurrection, they can kill our body? They can kill our body with the second death?
hillsbororiver:
Do not be afraid of the first death (all are appointed to die once), fear Him who has power over the second death (Lake of Fire). These Words are spiritual not literal. No man can send you to, or free you from the second death.
Joe
chrissiela:
nightmare,
There are two differnt words used there.
I know that it says that man cannot "kill" the soul and I guess this is really what you are asking about, right?
But in the latter part of that verse it changes from "kill" to "destroy" (when it talks about what God is "able" to do to both body and soul). This is the same words used for "perish/ed", "lost" (as in the "lost sheep" that Christ came to save).
Certainly men can "kill" (but cannot "restore", as God can right?).
So I think there is more to that verse than just 'that'. It's not just about "killing".... it is as opposed to "destroying"
Chrissie
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