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Hm...
nightmare sasuke:
--- Quote from: hillsbororiver on July 05, 2006, 05:40:27 PM ---Do not be afraid of the first death (all are appointed to die once), fear Him who has power over the second death (Lake of Fire). These Words are spiritual not literal. No man can send you to, or free you from the second death.
Joe
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Jesus said that man cannot kill the soul, though. How? When you die the first death (all are appointed to die once) the nephesh dies!
love_magnified:
No he didn't say "kill" the soul. He said "kill" the body and "appolumi" (destroy or lose) the soul. There is much more implied with the word apollumi than kill which is why it is so fascinating that Jesus used the word kill for one and destroy/lose for the other.
nightmare sasuke:
--- Quote from: Chrissie on July 05, 2006, 05:43:34 PM ---nightmare,
There are two differnt words used there.
I know that it says that man cannot "kill" the soul and I guess this is really what you are asking about, right?
But in the latter part of that verse it changes from "kill" to "destroy" (when it talks about what God is "able" to do to both body and soul). This is the same words used for "perish/ed", "lost" (as in the "lost sheep" that Christ came to save).
Certainly men can "kill" (but cannot "restore", as God can right?).
So I think there is more to that verse than just 'that'. It's not just about "killing".... it is as opposed to "destroying"
Chrissie
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However, Jesus "certainly" says "men" cannot "kill" the soul.
nightmare sasuke:
--- Quote from: love_magnified on July 05, 2006, 05:48:40 PM ---No he didn't say "kill" the soul. He said "kill" the body and "appolumi" (destroy or lose) the soul. There is much more implied with the word apollumi than kill which is why it is so fascinating that Jesus used the word kill for one and destroy/lose for the other.
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Mat 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
hillsbororiver:
Rev 21:8 But the fearful and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and whoremongers and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
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