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Hm...
nightmare sasuke:
You all are missing my point. In my mind, Jesus is contradicting the Scriptures. Nephesh die, yet Jesus says man cannot kill a nephesh.
If it refers to judgment, then how can men have the power to kill the body in judgment?
hillsbororiver:
That is the point, don't be fearful of men who can kill you/me now, fear Him who can cast you into The Lake of Fire, no man has power over that, the second death, only God does.
Luk 9:24 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: but whosoever will lose his life for my sake, the same shall save it.
Luk 17:33 Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it.
If we were to look at the above verses as strictly physical you could say Jesus was contradicting Himself here as well.
chrissiela:
Eze 18:4 Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.
Is this necessarily a “physical” death spoken of here?
Gen 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
Did Adam die a physical death?
Are we not all “dead” because of sin?
Joh 6:53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
As Joe said.... looking at the spiritual here in order to see past the "contradiction".
Blessings,
Chrissie
nightmare sasuke:
--- Quote from: hillsbororiver on July 05, 2006, 06:14:21 PM ---That is the point, don't be fearful of men who can kill you/me now, fear Him who can cast you into The Lake of Fire, no man has power over that, the second death, only God does.
Luk 9:24 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: but whosoever will lose his life for my sake, the same shall save it.
Luk 17:33 Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it.
If we were to look at the above verses as strictly physical you could say Jesus was contradicting Himself here as well.
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According to Jesus, man cannot kill me, a living soul, now. That's my problem with the verse.
nightmare sasuke:
--- Quote from: Chrissie on July 05, 2006, 06:27:27 PM ---Eze 18:4 Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.
Is this necessarily a “physical” death spoken of here?
Gen 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
Did Adam die a physical death?
Are we not all “dead” because of sin?
Joh 6:53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
As Joe said.... looking at the spiritual here in order to see past the "contradiction".
Blessings,
Chrissie
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CLV translates Gen 2:17 differently.
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