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The beginning
Dave in Tenn:
Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man (HEB: ADAM) of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
in the CLV (for verb tense):
Gen 2:7 And forming is Yahweh Elohim the human (HEB: ADAM) of soil from the ground, and He is blowing into his nostrils the breath of the living, and becoming is the human a living soul.
I'm not sure what you mean by 'Adam was nothing'.
Roy Martin:
Hello Dave,
Non existing as a spirit is what I meant to say. Sorry!
Roy
Dave in Tenn:
What comes to mind is what Ray's said. We aren't spiritual beings having a physical experience. We're physical beings having a Spiritual experience. I'm living meat...a beast. That's what is described in Genesis and continues today in 'creation', 'forming', being conformed, spiritual clay, having an experience of evil, etc. etc. etc. I started as a bit of meat and will end as a son of God. I have no doubt which one I am closer to at present.
That distinction about what we are is the gist of the fallacy of the "Law of Circulation" mentioned in the OP, and other theological and religious hocus-pocus.
Roy Martin:
--- Quote from: Dave in Tenn on November 17, 2010, 03:46:21 PM ---What comes to mind is what Ray's said. We aren't spiritual beings having a physical experience. We're physical beings having a Spiritual experience. I'm living meat...a beast. That's what is described in Genesis and continues today in 'creation', 'forming', being conformed, spiritual clay, having an experience of evil, etc. etc. etc. I started as a bit of meat and will end as a son of God. I have no doubt which one I am closer to at present.
That distinction about what we are is the gist of the fallacy of the "Law of Circulation" mentioned in the OP, and other theological and religious hocus-pocus.
--- End quote ---
Dave, I see now. This makes perfect sense.
Thank you!
Roy Martin
dave:
Close to perfect sense. God is Spirit Jo. 6:24 and Heb.12:9 says He is the Father of spirits. I see what Ray says about the living soul, still, God is Spirit and the father of spirits, does that not mean that even tho He made man a living soul, man first started out from God (who is spirit) that man was spirit first, coming out of God, before He made man a living soul?
1Co 15:45 so also it hath been written, `The first man Adam became a living creature,' the last Adam is for a life-giving spirit,
So then man was nothing before Gen.2:7 man was not even a spirit in "The Spirit" prior to becoming a living soul?
Im trying to understand how man was not a spirit or a part of God who is Spirit before becoming a living soul.
Peace
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