David,
I debated for 2 days about this as it gets off subject. Since following the link and going to an offsite one from there I found this because of you post so only fitting to let you know that it was your guidance that let me see this. So I thank you Brother.
David,
I want to thank you for this post. I do not know how to put into words how much I appreciate this. I am one of the ones that this was put here for. Today I clicked the unread post and it lead me on a tour. I reread the omission article and then went to the catholic encyclopedia. On the new advent website I found something that showed me something so amazing. An article entitled:
http://www.ncregister.com/blog/a-dogma-turns-60-today/ A Dogma Turns 60 Today. “By the authority of our Lord Jesus Christ, of the Blessed Apostles Peter and Paul, and by our own authority, we pronounce, declare, and define it to be a divinely revealed dogma: that the Immaculate Mother of God, the ever Virgin Mary, having completed the course of her earthly life, was assumed body and soul into heavenly glory.” — Pope Pius XII On November 1, 1950, crowds from the world over thronged St. Peter’s Square in Rome to hear Pope Pius XII give the Church its most recently proclaimed dogma: the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary.
Also in the article: The Holy Year concludes with another huge event: the proclamation of the dogma of the Assumption. Today, it is still the most recent dogma proclaimed by the Church. There is something slightly troubling in this Marian devotion. Mediatrix of a God who is
very far off, the Madonna seems like our last refuge before what is inevitable explodes, before some tragic secret assails humanity. The narration’s last paragraph is only correct, of course, in the sense of Revelation 12, in which the “great sign” which appears in the sky, “a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars,” suffers the wrath of the dragon’s persecution … and eventually is victorious when the huge dragon is thrown down to earth thanks to the intervention of God and Saint Michael.
Graham Greene gives us a sense of what those times were like and what the dogma meant to those who welcomed it, writing in Life magazine in 1950 An excerpt: This would be no argument, of course, for proclaiming a novel belief, but a dogma is only a definition of an old belief. It restricts the area of truth at the expense of legend or heresy, and the greatest definitions of the Church, accepted alike by Protestants and Catholics — the nature of Christ, the doctrine of the Trinity — were definitions drawn up to exclude heresies within the Church itself.
Some comments are:
Posted by jayxxxx on Monday, Nov 1, 2010 5:29 PM (EDT): Wonderful, Mary is indeed the Queen of Heaven. It is noteworthy that in 1847 at the petition of the USCCB Pope Pius IX named Mary patroness of the United States under the title of the Immaculate Conception….Dogma’s are a wonderful thing and cannot be questioned if you are a CATHOLIC. Posted by Barxxxx on Thursday, Nov 4, 2010 10:06 PM (EDT):You’re Jesus Christ, you love your mother. So what do you do - leave her in a grubby, nasty grave when you can bring her up to be with you in heaven? Seems like something a nice Jewish boy would do, don’t you think? It seems like one of the easiest dogmas to believe.
Posted by BOxxxx on Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 8:47 PM (EDT): Why is Revelation 12 so difficult? Who but the Apostle John, to whose care Jesus entrusted Mary from the cross, is better qualified to give us this vision of Mary in heaven, crowned as the queen mother?
With Ray's teachings, I have learned the churches use-context, context, context-literal, literal, literal to explain and interpret scripture. This is completely wrong and leads to misinterpretation and false beliefs and a mountain of confusion. Some of the physical aspects that they can see helps to further cloud the mind. Along with Mary and the trinity ranks church era dogma.
dogma n/ 1: a tenet or code of tenets 2: A doctrine or body of doctrines formally claimed by a church.
dogmatism n/ A positiveness in stating matters of opinion esp. when unwarranted or arrogant
In Joseph Campbell's Mythology series the queen of heaven, and the trinity go back to Babel and is simply re-interpreted to fit the church's modern paradigm.
The Catholic church knows it is the woman in Rev. 12, but think falsely that they will be victorious.
It is fascinating how the Catholic church from their literal and physical interpretations of the Bible can see things about themselves but cannot understand that their virgin is really the whore.
Look at where they came from and look at what God says and it proves that.
Isaiah 14:24 (NKJV)
24 The LORD of hosts has sworn, saying“Surely, as I have thought, so it shall come to pass, And as I have purposed, so it shall ystand:
Ezekiel 12:25 (NKJV)
25 For I am the LORD. I speak, and xthe word which I speak will come to pass; it will no more be postponed; for in your days, O rebellious house, I will say the word and perform it,” says the Lord GOD.
Everything that is happening in the evolution of the churches is exactly what God intended it to be.
Thank you brother,
Ken