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acomplishedartis:
Hi Samson.
Yes, nobody has implied that "Being Materially or Physically Rich" was wrong. As Arcturus said it so clear; it is ''the cravings of the senses, after worldly ostentations of life'', that is what is wrong. And obviously these is nothing to be surprised about; it is just a simple consequence of how our carnal minds work.
 
However, maybe you decided to make a clarification because a few assumptions that where said on one of the first replies by John from Kentucky.

A few assuptions that where predicted since the opening of these topic. Yet, no one had bring this specific assuptions. And I don't think that somebody would. (And so far, by the replies already being showed, I had already been confirmed on my believes respecting the subjects at hand and also had learn from others):

--- Quote from: John from Kentucky on December 13, 2010, 11:42:48 PM ---
If I buy something for $1 and sell it for $2 (to a willing buyer), then I have made a 100% profit of $1.  If I do this a billion times, then I am a billionaire.  How is this a sin?  Where in the scriptures does it teach that being rich, of and by itself, is a sin?  Poor people cannot give material things to others because they are poor!  Why is it a good thing to be poor?

--- End quote ---

I guess this depends on what you buy, and why you buy it, and how you sell it and why you sell it.

I really doubt that somebody now would come and say that being reach by itself (like because an inheritance or a great gift...) is a sin.


--- Quote from: John from Kentucky on December 13, 2010, 11:42:48 PM --- There is nothing righteous about being poor. 

--- End quote ---
Maybe in other forums or somewhere else they could come to say that there is something righteous by being poor by itself.



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Anyway, at what point do we become rich and what is being poor? On many cases, for somebody you could be rich, and for others you can be poor, and in other places you could be seen as miserable with the same things and we have the whole world with all their social classes, cultures, types of living and economies to prove this to us. Also Rich's are not really the ones whom can satisfy more prefabricated necessities, since this are as relative as the concept of physical wealth.

                                                                            What if we would consider others rich or poor on according to what are they really wishing or craving for: Are we rich on greediness? Are we rich in patience? Are we poor in knowledge? Are we poor in contentmet?

                                                                            And Materially; At what point can we really become faithfull and greatfull with the little or with the many that we have? (of course, with the little or many depending on our perspectives), Well, maybe that's part of our personal homework.

Some are judged for being rich and some are judged for being poor, but as it has already being said; Poor and rich can have many things in common. And being rich or poor doesn't make anybody automatically virtuous or not, it is what they do, and how do they behave on the place where they are meant to live.
We came with no money, and we will leave with no money.  Would it have not more sense to stop wishing and desiring to become excessively wealthy of material things and keep on trying to be content with our personal basic necessities? 
But it is not easy to believe that something is wrong, when the majority around us (in our present predominating society) seems to believe that greed is a good thing.

We should never dare to believe that more money (by itself) will bring us more chances to live real piety. These is like and endless maze, a maze full of rats looking for always have More, and more, and more, and more...      .I have been there before.



 

servias:
Thanks Samson. I think we are all on the same page with this.  Earning money at all costs (cheating, lying, stealing)  is not desirable in God's eyes, but earning money to support your family and provide an overall positive experience is good in Gods eyes.  I do not think we can personally judge or call out people who on whats right in terms of materialism because we do not know where their heart is.  Unless its obvious that they are cheating, lying, or stealing.   
Dan

Deborah-Leigh:
The blessing of everything that is wrong is that all wrong IS to be OVERCOME! Without anything being wrong, there cannot be anything to  overcome, or the virtue, supreme and sublime gift of The Over Comer, that is Christ in us.

Joh 16:33  I have spoken these things to you so that you might have peace in Me. In the world you shall have tribulation, but be of good cheer. I have overcome the world.

How else could Paul state :

Php 4:11  Not that I speak according to need, for I have learned to be content in whatever state I am.

Everything in and of the world, is wrong. Therein lies the magnificent awe inspiring Plan of God! :D

Blessings
Arc

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