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Accountable, or to give an account.
Marky Mark:
Hello fellow Truth seekers.
After reading a post by Samson that God is responsible and that we are
accountable,
def.
1. responsible to someone or for some action; answerable.
2. able to be explained.
it started me thinking on how the usage of the word accountable is used in Scripture.I do not believe that the word accountable is even used in Scripture but the word to give or take account is.
My question is,are we really accountable by use of the definition above or are we to give an account [Strongs;3056-3004] to what the Lord has worked through us [judgement now in the house of the Lord, then latter for all those in the GWT judgement ] in our beastly lives while in the flesh. Accountable seems as if we have to be responsible for what actions the Lord has seen fit to bestow upon us, in the trails and tribulations that He causes in the lives of all of His creation.
I guess what I'm trying to ask here is, are we to be accountable for our actions or are we to give or take an account of ourselves to the Lord,[by dying daily,to the flesh], meaning, what we have learned through His judgements because of His cause and effect in our lives. After all, His will, will be done.
The following verse and Strong's definition of the word account seem to bear this out .
Any help or correction on this matter would be appreciated.
3004. lego leg'-o a primary verb; properly, to "lay" forth, i.e. (figuratively) relate (in words (usually of systematic or set discourse; whereas 2036 and 5346 generally refer to an individual expression or speech respectively; while 4483 is properly to break silence merely, and 2980 means an extended or random harangue)); by implication, to mean:--ask, bid, boast, call, describe, give out, name, put forth, say(-ing, on), shew, speak, tell, utter.
3056. logos log'-os from 3004;[/i] something said (including the thought); by implication, a topic (subject of discourse), also reasoning (the mental faculty) or motive; by extension, a computation; specially, (with the article in John) the Divine Expression (i.e. Christ):--account, cause, communication, X concerning, doctrine, fame, X have to do, intent, matter, mouth, preaching, question, reason, + reckon, remove, say(-ing), shew, X speaker, speech, talk, thing, + none of these things move me, tidings, treatise, utterance, word, work.
Rom 14:12 So then every one of us shall give account [G3056] of himself to God.
Mat 18:23 Therefore is the kingdom of heaven likened unto a certain king, which would take account [G3056] of his servants.
Luk 16:2 And he called him, and said unto him, How is it that I hear this of thee? give an account [G3056] of thy stewardship; for thou mayest be no longer steward.
Mat 12:36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account [G3056] thereof in the day of judgment.
Act 19:40 For we are in danger to be called in question for this day's uproar, there being no cause whereby we may give an account [G3056] of this concourse.
Php 4:17 Not because I desire a gift: but I desire fruit that may abound to your account [G3056].
Heb 13:17 Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account [G3056], that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.
1Pe 4:5 Who shall give account [G3056] to him that is ready to judge the quick and the dead.
1Pe 4:6 For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.
Peace...Mark
mharrell08:
--- Quote from: Marky Mark on January 03, 2011, 11:10:45 AM ---Hello fellow Truth seekers.
After reading a post by Samson that God is responsible and that we are
accountable,
def.
1. responsible to someone or for some action; answerable.
2. able to be explained.
it started me thinking on how the usage of the word accountable is used in Scripture.I do not believe that the word accountable is even used in Scripture but the word to give or take account is.
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That's the same thing Mark. The fact that each person must give an account of their lives makes them accountable. While many dictionaries state that responsible and accountable are synonymous, they are similar but not the same.
--- Quote from: Marky Mark on January 03, 2011, 11:10:45 AM ---My question is,are we really accountable by use of the definition above or are we to give an account [Strongs;3056-3004] to what the Lord has worked through us [judgement now in the house of the Lord, then latter for all those in the GWT judgement ] in our beastly lives while in the flesh. Accountable seems as if we have to be responsible for what actions the Lord has seen fit to bestow upon us, in the trails and tribulations that He causes in the lives of all of His creation.
I guess what I'm trying to ask here is, are we to be accountable for our actions or are we to give or take an account of ourselves to the Lord,[by dying daily,to the flesh], meaning, what we have learned through His judgements because of His cause and effect in our lives. After all, His will, will be done.
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We are accountable for our actions because we choose to make them. But God is ultimately responsible for the choices we make as it is His intention that we make the choices we do.
For example, Adam & Eve in the garden of Eden: they both willingly chose to eat from the tree of knowledge even though they had been warned not to. But God is ultimately responsible for that choice as it was His Intention for these events to happen as they did.
But getting back to accountable and 'to give an account': they are the same thing. That's what makes someone accountable, that person having to give an account. No one else can give God an account for our lives but us. That makes us accountable.
Hope this helps,
Marques
Marky Mark:
Hey Marques. Thanks for the response.
I understand what you speak of,but,the two words in question seem to me, at least, to differ in their intended use in the verse given, in that, to be accountable means that we are to give an answer to the Lord of why we are doing the things that we do, (which truly are our choices,preordained of course),but,none the less, its also like the Lord saying to us, "tell me what you did and why you did it because I have not a clue", which of course is silly to even think that. He already knew the answer before the world began.
On the other hand, on what account, [Jesus is that account] should we be living and doing what is Spiritually right, according to what the Spirit is showing us in our daily struggle with our flesh, which of course is what we should be dying to daily in the first place.
It is because of Christ's account for what He has done for us that we should all be aware of,that in turn,this same account is expected of all of His elect in such a way as we need to be as He is,that is, with the same like mindedness.
Php 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
That to me would be true accountability. I think we are ultimately accountable in a way that we must always be aware of who and what we are according to His judgements and to His high expectations of the Truth in us, which I believe we all are striving for in our walk with Christ
2Co 5:10 All of us must appear in front of Christ's judgment seat. Then all people will receive what they deserve for the good or evil they have done while living in their bodies.
Hope this makes some sense...
Peace...Mark
daywalker:
Hello Mark and all...
I think I have a scripture that may shed some light on just how God will hold us "accountable" or "make us give account" for the deeds (good and bad) that we do in this earthly life:
(Repeated twice in Proverbs--Chp 16:2 & Chp 21:2)
"Every way of a man is right in his own eyes, but the LORD weighs the heart." ESV
"All a person's ways seem right in his own opinion, but the LORD evaluates the motives." NET
Ray says in one of his speeches that (paraphrasing) 'God will hold us accountable, not just for what we do, but for the way we think.' So, though we may have a hard time overcoming certain sins, God also takes into consideration the fact that we WANT to overcome these sins; not just that we haven't yet overcome them. I think it's safe to say that GOD cares more about our spiritual state (our inner being, who we desire and try to be), as opposed to our physical state (what we actually do). Kinda like how Jesus told the Pharisees to "First clean the inside of the cup and the plate, that the outside also may be clean."--Matt 23:26.
Hope this is helpful.
Christopher 8)
mharrell08:
--- Quote from: Marky Mark on January 03, 2011, 02:34:11 PM ---Hey Marques. Thanks for the response.
I understand what you speak of,but,the two words in question seem to me, at least, to differ in their intended use in the verse given, in that, to be accountable means that we are to give an answer to the Lord of why we are doing the things that we do, (which truly are our choices,preordained of course),but,none the less, its also like the Lord saying to us, "tell me what you did and why you did it because I have not a clue", which of course is silly to even think that. He already knew the answer before the world began.
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Mark,
I understand your point above, but what I highlighted in bold is not what giving an account is. We give an account because we are to be judged. God doesn't need to know what we did, WE need to know what we did wrong and most importantly, WHY it was wrong in the first place. We do this everyday with our own children. We don't admonish ourselves for their actions, we teach them about what they did and why they should or should not do it in the future.
The scriptures tell us that we will be judged by our words, thoughts & actions. I have to confess and repent of the sins in my life, as does everyone for their own lives. This is what it means to give an account of: to be judged for the things you did in your life.
--- Quote from: Marky Mark on January 03, 2011, 02:34:11 PM ---On the other hand, on what account, [Jesus is that account] should we be living and doing what is Spiritually right, according to what the Spirit is showing us in our daily struggle with our flesh, which of course is what we should be dying to daily in the first place.
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But the scriptures speak of all people giving an account for every word, thought, & deed in their lives, IN JUDGMENT [Matt 12:36], not just believers. How would an unbeliever give an account of dying to the flesh and living for Christ?
Marques
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