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HOW CAN WE LOVE "IN SPIRIT"?
newborn:
This may be a "childish" question for many.
But I'm just wondering....
1. If in Heaven, there's is absolutely no physical (which I believe)
How can we show each other LOVE?
2. I mean, in the kingdom of God, how can righteousness abide
without some form of physical manifestation?
3. If it's all spiritual, do we see each other in Heaven?
I don't doubt Ray's explanation on this site. I've read it ALL a couple of
times over. I JUST WANT THE THOUGHTS OF MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS
HERE ABOUT WHAT WOULD HEAVEN BE LIKE?
I know it will be the "GRANDEST OF ALL", no comparison.
EVEN PAUL WAS "HUMBLED BY GOD" WHEN HE WAS LIFTED UP TO HEAVEN...
I AM JUST SOOO EXCITED TO BE THERE AND SEE HOW IT FEELS TO BE ABLE
TO SEE GOD FACE TO FACE...AND LIVE FOREVER WITH HIM.
I want to have the reward, THIS IS MY ULTIMATE DREAM. ;-)
Kat:
Hi newborn,
This is something that has peaked my interest for a long time. To me the spiritual has to do with how we feel, what's in our heart, our attitude. We of course use these feelings in our physical manifestations now, but too often the carnal draws us towards the negative character traits, instead of the positive. When we enter the kingdom the physical will be gone and the carnal along with it and we will be united/one with God. I can see how we could very well show positive feelings (love, joy, kindness) to each other when we are spirit.
I am beginning to see how this physical is so limited and temporary. When God is all in all the spiritual will only be limited by God having removed the evil from it. How great will that be!! So it's hard to imagine, but I think there will be endless or ever expanding opportunities to experience. Just think with all the different personalities in the individual people that will be operating in the family of God, there are limitless possibilities.
Imagine how thrilling it will be to share things with another brother or sister. It would be an act of love to visit and share these things. If we are an Elect we may want to share an experience we had with those still in physical form with another Elect. What about those experiences we will be involved with concerning the wonders God has yet to show us? I don't think we will all be doing the same thing at the same time, so we might seek out someone to visit with and share with them some of the wonders we may have participated in. Just think if you ever got around to speaking to all the different humans about there experiences, well then everyone will continue to have more experiences that you could share with them anew, over and over and over again.
My my it just makes you so eager to see God put all things under His feet :D
Rev 22:20 He who testifies to these things says, "Surely I am coming quickly."
Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus!
mercy, peace and love
Kat
eggi:
Hi newborn,
I don't think that's a "childish" question. Don't we all have thoughts about how it's going to be? I used to think about these things before, but now for a while I haven't focused very much on them. We must hope for it and look forward to it, but the rest is up to God. He will surprise us again I believe. ;D
Here are my thoughts on your questions:
1. There will be plenty of opportunity to share love and laughter and joy. Love will remain forever, for God is LOVE. I believe that what we feel and experience in this life, how it is now, is nothing compared to how we will enjoy our new life in the future. And that includes LOVE. But imagine this, even the (some times great) SUFFERINGS we experience now are nothing compared with the GLORY and JOY we will have then.
For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us. (Rom 8:18)
2. It's going to be a body (superior to what we have now) there. But I don't think righteousness has anything to do with physical manifestation of a body. But bodies, yes there will be bodies.
It is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body; there is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body; (1Cor 15:44)
3. I can't imagine that we will not have some kind of vision, or not be able to see anyone. That would be a bit lonely, don't you think? Are we going to move around in darkness ? I don't think so. The details are not touched upon in the Scriptures. After all, the most important thing is our hope and trust in what God has promised to do. Like Ray has said; we will not be in some frozen Han Solo state. There will be work to do, there will be challenges, there will be progress, never ending. And there will be joy, peace, love, all we are longing for and dreaming about. The ultimate dream, yes it certainly is.
God already made a physical universe, and it's absolutely incredible. Imagine how it will be when God creates again! Don't you think it will be even more amazing ?
And he that sat on the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. (Rev 21:5)
Sure, we don't see how it will be now, but we already have our hands full understanding and dealing with this life. There's a time for everything, and that time will come when it's time for that.
But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it. (Rom 8:25)
God bless you,
Eirik
DougE6:
2Co 5:4 For while we are still in this tent, we groan, being burdened--not that we would be unclothed, but that we would be further clothed, so that what is mortal may be swallowed up by life.
Rom 8:23 And not only the creation, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies.
2Co 5:2 For in this tent we groan, longing to put on our heavenly dwelling,
As time goes on, the more and more I can relate to the inward groaning, eagerly awaiting our redemption as sons, the redemption of our bodies. Sometimes I feel it so strongly I think I am going to "fly away" right then and there :) I think about it every day.
Heb 11:16 But as it is, they desire a better country, that is, a heavenly one. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for he has prepared for them a city.
Eph 1:11 In him we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to the purpose of him who works all things according to the counsel of his will,
Eph 1:12 so that we who were the first to hope in Christ might be to the praise of his glory.
Eph 1:13 In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit,
Eph 1:14 who is the guarantee of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it, to the praise of his glory.
We have an inheritance. How amazing. Thank you Lord. Truly as Erik said (and this is hard to keep in mind in this veil of tears) Rom 8:18 For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worth comparing with the glory that is to be revealed to us. I must keep that in mind.
I will remain in my caterpillar state as long as God has ordained, but I want to be the butterfly...and I think in every way the butterfly far exceeds the caterpillar, and has a LOT BETTER VIEW, too of everything. And butterflies are much more aware than caterpillars ever will be. And I truly think that is a small physical example of the completeness and beauty and higher level of the change that awaits us.
Co 15:51 Behold! I tell you a mystery. We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
1Co 15:52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we shall be changed.
1Co 15:53 For this perishable body must put on the imperishable, and this mortal body must put on immortality.
Doug
olasupo jacobs:
I will summarize all our longing, expectation, wondering and concern about heaven by the scripture below. i strongly believe that until we get there that is when we are there ...till then keep hoping and let His spirit work through you
1Co 2:9 However, as the scripture says, "What no one ever saw or heard, what no one ever thought could happen, is the very thing God prepared for those who love him."
Hope that is seen is no more hope.....stay blessed
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