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Linny:
I would like to hear more about:
1) Patriotism and pledging to flags. At our co-op we have 3 pledges which I told my kids they didn't have to do.
American flag, Christian flag and the Bible.
2) Exorcism-since it is such a hot topic in our culture and I know people who have done them who aren't even Catholic.
Lin
Linny:
Oh, I have always loved Ray's quote here on politics...
"A true follower of Jesus cannot be involved in politics. Jesus certainly did not take part in any such worldly activities.
I am an "Ambassador for Christ" (I Cor 5:20). Ambassadors cannot legally take part in the politics of foreign nations. Jesus never, ever got involved in the operations of the Roman Government over the Jews. We are never taught to "march on Washington," etc. But we are told to COME OUT OF THE WORLD and be separate. "Let the DEAD bury the dead."
the truth:
i would say coming from a faith movement church. that i could never understand why they ALWAYS proclaimed that the lord was going to bring this hugh revival in these end times. and that the church was not even going to be able to hold the crowds...lol...what is that?
believerchrist100:
--- Quote from: Linny on February 21, 2011, 07:31:55 PM ---I would like to hear more about:
1) Patriotism and pledging to flags. At our co-op we have 3 pledges which I told my kids they didn't have to do.
American flag, Christian flag and the Bible.
2) Exorcism-since it is such a hot topic in our culture and I know people who have done them who aren't even Catholic.
Lin
--- End quote ---
I almost instantly thought of this excerpt from the 2007 Nashville Conference when I read that:
Somebody ask me last week about demons. There really are these things. I’ve had a little experience and I know some of them by name.
My friend, Eliot from Brooklyn, we went to college together. I was living in Mobile at the time, I had moved away for 20 years, then came back. We were going to meet at Mt. Pocono, because there was a large church up there. We were in Worldwide and they had a festival up there, so I was going to meet Eliot there. It was one of those spooky nights. By the time the last service was over and with the fellowshipping. The sun was going down, it got dark early and it was raining and foggy.
One of the ministers came up to Eliot and me and ask us to come to a side room, ‘We have a little problem.’ We said okay, we’ll help and went with him. So in the room there was about 5 of us and there was this women. She was about 75 years old, with gray hair, a little on the hefty side. She was acting strange. So we ask what was going on, and he said, ‘well we think Anne is having a problem.’ So we were gathered around and Anne was looking a little strange, she would snarl her face up and say, ‘I know who you are.’ This was a 75 year old woman, with gray hair and she is talking like a monster, you know. We said, okay we know what we got here. These things would take her over and she would get violent and wanted to attack us. There were five strong men, in our 30’s trying to hold her down.
This was a 75 year old lady, each of us had one arm one leg, she was just violent. We would ask, ‘who are you?’ She would just snarl and then she would give us a name. We didn’t know, so we would just command these things to come out, in the name of Jesus Christ. And then she would settle down and be like, ‘what are you all doing?’ We’d say, well you’re not feeling to good Anne, ‘well, what’s wrong?’ You are just not feeling good right now. Then her face would snarl up and she would start yelling at us. We would say, who are you? It’s kind of comical now, I don’t think that demons are smart. I remember that at one point there was one, I did know them all, but I started to forget them. But this one was named Bok, and we cast out Bok. Then we cast out a bunch of others. So one after the other, they would just take her and we’d cast them out, then she would just settle down and be fine. She would say, ‘what’s wrong, why am I on the floor?’ She didn’t know what was happening. We would ask each one’s name and it was a different demon. One time I ask who are you, and it said ‘Bouk,’ we said wait a minute we just cast you out, it said, ‘no, that was Bok, I’m Bouk.’ I’m serious.
We were there for an hour or two, casting out demons. Some of them just would not come out, it said, ‘the master would be very angry.’ We ask who is the master, it said, ‘ Beelzebub is the master.’ They didn’t want to come out. Then she would settle down for a while. Then this one, we said who are you, it said ‘no’ we said we command you in the name of Jesus Christ what is your name, ‘no’ we said we command you, you have to tell us, ‘my name is no.’ She would settle down and then another would take her over and she would want to attack us and kill us. I tell you by the time we were done, it was enervating. We knew we were in a different realm. We ask them questions and we ask them about stuff, we knew about to see if they knew about it. So this stuff is real. This is not fairy land or the wizard of Oz, this stuff really does exist. They're spirits in the air.
That said, those are two things I would most certainly like to hear about too.
Patrick
cjwood:
just responding to aatos; remember then we will be like Him, and to Him a day is as a thousand years and a thousands years as a day. so, Who knows....
claudia
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