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mharrell08:

--- Quote from: Craig on February 25, 2011, 11:23:31 AM ---http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa/02/24/cnnheroes.sawo.hiv/index.html?hpt=T2

Without discussing what her current condition is (spiritually and physically) it is sad how this belief has hurt so many people.
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Excerpt from article:

"The church must change its attitude," she said. "HIV is not a moral issue. It's a virus."


That pretty much says it all.

Linny:
Thanks for sharing that Craig.

Rene:

--- Quote from: mharrell08 on February 18, 2011, 10:16:45 AM ---
--- Quote from: Dennis Vogel on February 18, 2011, 09:58:03 AM ---Ray and I were talking today (he's about the same) and we were wondering about any traditional church doctrines he has not touched on. We could not think of any.

Can anyone think of and mainstream doctrines Ray has not mentioned in his writings?

There's no real meaning for this question other than my curiosity.

Thanks,

Dennis
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The Word of Faith movement aka 'Name It and Claim It'.
His 2008 bible study 'Sowing Spiritual Seed' only lightly touched on it, if I recall. But I haven't heard it in awhile.

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Now that I am paying more attention to what is being said to me by those who are still deep into Bablyon, I have to agree with Marques that this "Name It and Claim It" doctrine is being spewed constantly by them.  It has nothing to do with spiritual growth, it seems to only pertain to the gaining of physical possessions or higher positions in this world.  It is a huge part of the "prosperity" ministry. 

René

Foxx:
A little off topic but there is a fascinating documentary about HIV and AIDS that will most likely open your eyes to many truths about the disease. It's called "House Of Numbers"

This is a link to a clip of the film and in it the discoverer of HIV, Dr. Luc Montagnier, is being interviewed here. This isn't just some random person, this is the guy who was researching this from the very beginning of it all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQoNW7lOnT4


Just thought I would share. Speaking of which it would be interesting to hear some more on healing and diseases. Unless I missed something on the site but I would like to learn more about the legitamacy about it. Jesus speaks of using the holy spirit to cast out demons, spirits, healing etc. and that WE should do these things but I don't know if this meant for us or specifically for the disciples to whom is was talking. I'm just wondering that.

Oh and one more thing. I hear preachers saying that these prophets from the old testament had the Holy Spirit speaking to them but am I wrong is saying that is inaccurate?

dave:
What about "alter calls," I have not found a foundation in the Word for alter calls.

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