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The Bible's Message of Salvation for the Whole World
Hopeful:
--- Quote from: spiritman on February 28, 2011, 11:28:52 PM ---Duane,
I also find them getting very angry. It can be very frustrating at times? I get looked at like I'm some kind of devil because I actually believe that God will do what he said He will do, save everyone! It is hard to put into words, but I can often sense their complete blindness to the issue, so I don't get upset anymore. If they were able to do so, they would believe the same, very humbling.
Matt
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I know the feeling. It wasn't that long ago that I explained this to my old Calvinist associates before telling them that I would no longer be attending their church. One of them prayed for my damnation, out loud, on the spot.
Some "love".
Our association was quickly terminated.
Funnily enough, they couldn't even answer a very simple argument. God swore by Himself that He has no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but that the wicked should turn to Him and live. Then, that God will do all His pleasure. Therefore, all will eventually turn to Him and live. Their only defense was to twist and add to the Scriptures, saying that "the wicked" here refers only to the elect, in spite of no suggestion whatsoever of that anywhere else.
gmik:
Wow. Thanks for sharing!!! I forwarded on FB and e mail....see if I get any feedback (probably no one will mention it)
alfonthemove:
Thank you for this great work. It is so refreshing to hear The Lord's Word, and Not Mans Commentary about it.
Duane:
Today I did a lot of meditating on what all I had learned on this web-site. It always comes back to "God not willing that ANY should parish but that ALL should come to repentence".
I had the audacity to try and plave myself in God's stead and picture creating billlions of people. Now out of the billions of people I have predestined a small percentage of them to
accept me during the course of their life-time--meaning the first fruits of my harvest.
Then I considered the teachings of old and how the remainder that I HADN'T chosen were
destined to eternal suffering for ever!
1. As a LOVING FATHER why wouldn't I choose all of my children to be saved?
2. If I desired those who didn't accept ME during their life-time to be eternally punished in
Hell, then why wouldn't it be fairer to NOT create theem in the first place? Meaning, even
if my creation had the most pampered of earthly lives for 70-100 years it wouldn't be
worth the eternal judgement to follow.
3. So wouldn't it be most gracious all the way around to either save them all- OR- not create
them-- knowing their impending, eternal doom?
How could a LOVING FATHER do that?
gmik:
good stuff duane.
ps I got NO feedback on putting the youtube link on my e mails and FB... (duh) TV and shopping are about the only things that get peoples attention.
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