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Revilonivek:
--- Quote from: Arcturus on March 27, 2011, 03:56:47 AM ---
Hi Revilonivek
Religion is a construction of a human mind that creates its own idea of who God is. That’s what we call an idol.
God is greater than any definition of any imagination. In other words, there isn’t a religion anywhere or anytime, that knows God nor understands God.
All religions dream of God and non practice Him.
Arc
--- End quote ---
Arcturus,
Thank you so much for taking a moment in time to respond. What I am trying to say is I understand completely that there is no religion that carries 100 percent truth but all of them have some idea but not the whole image of God. For example, Judaism, Christianity, and Muslim, come from the same God of Moses/Abraham but they arrive to their own beliefs about Him. Majority of religions teach unconditional love but they don’t’ seem to grasp it yet bec of hate blinding them. I come across many things from Gnostics that are similar to the scriptures. Given the history of the bible, like Ray states: about 50,000 changes has been done to the bible since 1611. What about the history before then? A lot of burning of religion books, and throughout history is always fighting each other, burning each other’s religion books and calling everyone’s paper heresy.
Perhaps it’s a fine idea to gain knowledge of whatever understanding Gnostics has attained, and compare it to God’ scriptures, and get further information that could have helped us understand more of what was being said in the scriptures. What I am implying here, is Gnostics appear to have additional information to what Jesus had to say than the KJV is letting us know. Considering the history of the bible, I don’t think it’s a bad idea. Of course We don’t have to agree to everything Gnostics believe in, just compare whatever information are similar to the scriptures and see if they match up, that way we can learn more of what Jesus said that day, or what other authors say he said on that specific day. Like for example, the day on Mount of Olives.
I’m not looking to cause trouble- just letting ya’ll know it’s there, is all but It sounds like most here are already familiar with it, and probably don’t want to bother with Gnosticism at all.
Again, I apologize.
Blessings and Peace,
Denise
Deborah-Leigh:
Hi Denise
Silence is golden and into golden silence I recieve your thoughts with welcome. Thank you for thinking.
Arc
Duane:
Revalonovic...While I can appreciate your desire to learn, I fear that learning OUTSIDE the
Bible and then trying to blend it in, as if God FORGOT to include everything He wanted in the Bible is dangerous.
Consider Revelation 22: 18-19 "But I testify to anyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are in this book, and if anyone takes away from the words of this book of prophecy, God will take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things that are written in this book."
I have NO IDEA how the various editings of the KJV and the elimination of the Apocriphal books enter in here, but I have to assume that if they were meant to be in they would be.
Meanwhile, if you concentrate on "mastering" just the LOF series you will keep so busy that
Gnosticism studies will be crowded out. Hope this helps.
Kat:
Hi Denise,
Nobody here can tell you not to study whatever you please, if you think it will lead you to more truth. But I do not read other people's philosophies of religion, because I think very few (including myself) have the discernment needed to ferret out the truth from those works. We see Ray do it and it looks so easy. I also believe if not very careful you can be lead down a rabbit hole, that tangles a bit of truth in with much lies and you lose your way. I've seen this happen.
You make think (I'm not saying you do, just a comment) that the Scriptures are limited and all truth can not be in them, I would disagree with that. I think the Scripture that we have, even in these imperfect translation, is all we need. I look as the Bible as God providing a base of instruction, He can use this to reveal all truth, it's all in there. Actually He doesn't need anything at all, but He has given us this hard copy of the Word to unite us with. Sometimes I think we are too eager for 'new' revelations to titillate us, when we have a treasure trove right here :)
mercy, peace and love
Kat
Dave in Tenn:
If there is an -ism attached to it, that's enough reason for me to not want to take it into my soul. :D
Since I was raised a baptist/evangelical and not a gnostic, then my primary goal in life is to finish vomiting out what I've already ingested and never, by the Grace of God, to ever return to it. If there are elements of "gnosticism" in that vomit (pardon the expression), then I think the Lord will empty me of them by putting more truth into me and bringing me to obedience in my own life rather than investigating somebody else's theology. I'd prefer to let those God has blinded with "Gnosticism" to deal with their own issues in 'coming out of her', especially since I'm not a teacher charged with exposing every contradiction. I've got my own beams to remove and repenting to do.
I believe we already have the Scripture we are supposed to have. God is not running damage control or silently wishing we had more light. Mankind is not blind (and neither was I) by a lack of Scripture, but by the will of God. There are aspects of all religions that have nuggets of 'true' in them. Same thing with fiction, history, poetry, and Oprah. As I said in another thread recently, I reckon there is enough edible food in any pigpen to keep the second son alive, though he has to sift through a lot of manure and mud to get to it.
That's just me, though.
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