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Joel:
The same Bible that says "God is Love" also says in Exodus 15:3 The Lord is a man of war: the Lord is his name. and there is no contradiction when scriptures are rightly divided.

Abraham asked the Lord before he destroyed Sodom, Genisis 18:25 : Shall not the judge of all the earth do right?

People have been dieing by one means or another since the days of Adam, when death was pronounced upon mankind. And so it will be, until Jesus returns and death and hell are cast into the LOF.

We all will understand some day, just how Loving God really is, and that day is closer than when we first believed.

Blessings to all that God uses to shed light, especially Ray Smith. :)

Joel

moxicarose:
I used to have to sit through his Numa videos back when I worked with a youth group at a big church.. :-\ I always felt like he said a whole lot of words, but never really said anything...

But, 'ministers of gawd' as you say, John from Kentucky, have no idea that they are tools of Satan. I feel for Mr. Bell, because I actually think that there's a glimmer there. A glimmer of the truth planted in his heart, and he's possibly just following his old formula for how to share what he believes. So he sells his book, and goes in front of millions on t.v. We don't know for sure if it's only going to obscure or abase truth..it might be what God is using to plant more seed in His elect that are still in the system. I guess really all I'm saying is, for some reason God has softened my heart toward Rob, and I have been praying for him.

 

phillip78:
Rob Bell still believes in free will. Anyone who believes that has lost an awful lot of credibility with me.

markn902:
I have never heard of Rob Bell or Mars Hill must be some big church I will state my opinions on the interview though

1. I think that people,media, whatever, love labels and if someone is doing something different they need to label that person something. in this case a "universalist" because , well he has to be something right?

2. This is really part of a trend "non denominational" churches are leaning towards as information becomes much more easy to get. It would not take someone who is objectively looking very long to find out there is no hell. So churches have tried a softer approach like "hell is being away from god" etc.. there is a list of nicer alternatives that I have heard. And I think this is just following that trend. Pastors want to say that Jesus will save everyone while still pointing out that they need church (their church) to be saved.   

I don't know just my opinion I didn't even finish watching it..really it's just a promo for his book that he is selling.. whatever

gmik:
Philip adn Moxie--I read the new book twice...I loved it....but oh yes, he doesn't have a clue on some things....but his peeling off layers of who you are and who you want to become are jewels...I sobbed reading his version of the prodigal son...I recommend it w/ the caveat that yes he is a free-willer (for now)

About 6 years ago I 'stumbled' on him before I found Ray...I read his early book "The Velvet Elvis"....again I was searching and God used this in my life to take me a little bit out of traditional Babylonian thinking...so when I found BT I was ready for it. So even tho I don't believe a lot in where Bell is at spiritually, I carry a soft spot in my heart, and I pray that God will drag him to teachers like Ray...Rob is close he just needs a push and maybe pray for him.  Why should we be the only ones to hear the truth?

PS  today I saw him on youtube-not the interview-just him telling what he believes!  Yuck!!  He didn't defend salvation for everyone and no hell at all....dang, very disappointing but what I said above about the book was true for me- maybe I just needed it for a heart check up!!

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