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Today in paradise?
nightmare sasuke:
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Rev 2:7 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.
The tree of life is in the midst of paradise. So if we find the tree of life we find paradise.
Rev 22:2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.
Gen 2:9 And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
Paradise is not in Hades.
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Thanks! Now I can shoot down that one arguement.
nightmare sasuke:
--- Quote from: prarrydog on July 10, 2006, 12:53:26 AM ---
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[2] Jesus was talking about his physical ascent into the sky.
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Not sure what this means. You will have to explain it to me.
Thanks
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In other words, he was talking about a specific ascent, when he left the Apostles by ascending into the air.
They might argue Jesus was talking about a separate event.
Chris R:
Hello, Night
No one will ever "convince" anyone of these truths....trying to "win" a argument with folks about these truths is something you will soon find fruitless..
Chris R
chumkin:
in luke it does not say today, it say to day,
lets translate chumkin style :D
on this day you will be with me in paridise. what day????
Hemera
of the last day of this present age, the day Christ will return from heaven, raise the dead, hold the final judgment, and perfect his kingdom
i could be wrong, but you know me :P ;D ::)
but seeing this Jesus actully used the lest amount of words he had to. he couldnt very well explain ressurection to the guy.
he just got done teaching psalms 22, so he simply said" on hemera youll be in paridise.
chrissiela:
I agree with you Chuck, if that is ok? :o
I think it is a matter of knowing what "today" means, spiritually (not physically):
Heb 3:6-8 But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we, if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end. Wherefore (as the Holy Ghost saith, To day if ye will hear his voice, Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation in the wilderness:
Heb 3:13-16 But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin. For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end; While it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation. For some, when they had heard, did provoke: howbeit not all that came out of Egypt by Moses.
Heb 4:7 Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.
My 2 pennies. ;D
Chrissie
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