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hillsbororiver:
Good morning Brett,

How about printing this article and giving it to your Mom?

http://bible-truths.com/trinity.html

Joe

Harryfeat:
Hello Brett,

I think that Joe's advice is excellent.  Have your mother read it carefully because there is a lot more to it than just debunking trinity.


I read the article and it seems to emphasize that Christ ceased being a son at His death on the cross.  I would suggest that you and your mother read John 20. I have always been intrigued by the "touch me not" verse 17.  Note that Christ, after his death on the cross, refers to the Father.  It doesn't appear that the Father Son relationship ceased to exist, at least in Christ's mind.

Anyway that is some more food for thought.  I hope it helps in the search for truth.

feat

prarrydog:

  Hi Brett,

   I read that paper and it is alot of unscriptural nonsense.  The author appears to be making a claim that Jesus is The Father.  Alex already posted excellent scripture showing that Jesus is not The Father right now so the only questions are...Was He The Father? and will He be The Father?  Here are a couple of scriptures for you to ponder:

  Rev 1:1  The Revelation of Jesus Christ...
  Rev 1:5  And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness...
  Rev 3:14  These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;

  Jesus is the beginning of the creation of God (The Father).  So will He be God The Father in the future?  Let's see:

1Co 15:24  Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power.
1Co 15:25  For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet.
1Co 15:26  The last enemy to be destroyed is death.
1Co 15:27  For he "has put everything under his feet."[3] Now when it says that "everything" has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ.
1Co 15:28  When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.


Good luck


  

orion77:
(Luk 12:8)  But I say to you, Everyone who may confess Me before men, the Son of Man will also confess him before the angels of God.

(Luk 12:9)  But he that denies me before man shall be denied before the angels of God.


(Joh 3:33)  The one receiving His testimony has sealed that God is true.

(Joh 3:34)  For the One whom God sent speaks the Words of God, for God does not give the Spirit by measure.

(Joh 3:35)  The Father loves the Son and has given all things into His hand.

(Joh 3:36)  The one believing into the Son has everlasting life; but the one disobeying the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him.


(Act 7:54)  And hearing these things, they were cut to their hearts and gnashed the teeth on him.

(Act 7:55)  But being full of the Holy Spirit, looking intently into the heaven, he saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right of God.

(Act 7:56)  And he said, Behold, I see the heavens having been opened, and the Son of man standing at the right of God!

(Act 7:57)  And crying out with a loud voice, they held their ears and rushed on him with one passion.

(Act 7:58)  And throwing him outside the city, they stoned him. And the witnesses put off their garments at the feet of a young man called Saul.

(Act 7:59)  And they stoned Stephen, invoking and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.


If Christ be no more, what was the purpose of the resurrection.  How can we say, we are crucified with Christ, and it's no longer I who live, but Christ in me that lives.

When Stephen was stoned, which was after Jesus was raised, how can the author of that article explain those verses?

I don't know where some get the idea that Adam and Eve were created perfect.  Where is the scripture to back that up.


Brett, hope those verses are a help to you and your mother.

God bless,

Gary

sunset_drama_king:
Thank you so much for the replies...I will continue to study these things of course!

- Brett S.

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