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Tower of Babel
SDDiver:
This has been occupying my mind for weeks now so I want to throw it out there and see what y'all think.
Genesis 11:4-9
Then they said, “Come, let us build ourselves a city, with a tower that reaches to the heavens, so that we may make a name for ourselves; otherwise we will be scattered over the face of the whole earth.”
But the LORD came down to see the city and the tower the people were building. The LORD said, “If as one people speaking the same language they have begun to do this, then nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them. Come, let us go down and confuse their language so they will not understand each other.”
So the LORD scattered them from there over all the earth, and they stopped building the city. That is why it was called Babel—because there the LORD confused the language of the whole world. From there the LORD scattered them over the face of the whole earth.
Since "everything happened to them as examples" (1 Cor 10:11), does anyone else see in this story the hundreds of denominations in existence today? Their confused languages. So they will not understand each other.
Interesting also that "the whole world" was not scattered over the face of the whole earth prior to God making it so.
mharrell08:
--- Quote from: SDDiver on April 15, 2011, 01:44:59 PM ---Interesting also that "the whole world" was not scattered over the face of the whole earth prior to God making it so.
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Not sure if this means the inhabitants of the entire world or simply the entire land. Ray goes over the use of earth/world in his study on Noah's flood (http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,8385.msg79675.html#msg79675).
I'm thinking the Lord was referring to all the inhabitants in this particular, local area.
John from Kentucky:
--- Quote from: SDDiver on April 15, 2011, 01:44:59 PM ---This has been occupying my mind for weeks now so I want to throw it out there and see what y'all think.
Genesis 11:4-9
Then they said, “Come, let us build ourselves a city, with a tower that reaches to the heavens, so that we may make a name for ourselves; otherwise we will be scattered over the face of the whole earth.”
But the LORD came down to see the city and the tower the people were building. The LORD said, “If as one people speaking the same language they have begun to do this, then nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them. Come, let us go down and confuse their language so they will not understand each other.”
So the LORD scattered them from there over all the earth, and they stopped building the city. That is why it was called Babel—because there the LORD confused the language of the whole world. From there the LORD scattered them over the face of the whole earth.
Since "everything happened to them as examples" (1 Cor 10:11), does anyone else see in this story the hundreds of denominations in existence today? Their confused languages. So they will not understand each other.
Interesting also that "the whole world" was not scattered over the face of the whole earth prior to God making it so.
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This scripture also brings out a topic which is on the forefront, the cutting edge of understanding Who and What God is. Ray is studying this matter and discussed it in his recent communications. The LORD referred to is Yahweh, the God of the Old Testament, and Who we understand to be Jesus in the New Testament. Yahweh says, "Let Us go down..." A singular Yahweh, but a plural pronoun--Us. Who, What, and Why is this God we worship? We don't learn about the Father until Jesus reveals Him to us in the New Testament.
Once we understand God better, we will understand all things that have come out of Him better. These are exciting times in which we live. The things we are beginning to see, great ones in the past have wanted to see and understand, but it was not given to them at that time to understand. Why us now?
JohnMichael:
--- Quote from: John from Kentucky on April 15, 2011, 05:29:01 PM ---This scripture also brings out a topic which is on the forefront, the cutting edge of understanding Who and What God is. Ray is studying this matter and discussed it in his recent communications. The LORD referred to is Yahweh, the God of the Old Testament, and Who we understand to be Jesus in the New Testament. Yahweh says, "Let Us go down..." A singular Yahweh, but a plural pronoun--Us. Who, What, and Why is this God we worship? We don't learn about the Father until Jesus reveals Him to us in the New Testament.
Once we understand God better, we will understand all things that have come out of Him better. These are exciting times in which we live. The things we are beginning to see, great ones in the past have wanted to see and understand, but it was not given to them at that time to understand. Why us now?
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Maybe the answer is in Dan 12:4 (ASV)
"But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased."
cjwood:
i think possibly the "whole world" or "whole earth" matter, could be a translation situation. rotherham's emphasized bible uses the word earth in both places in vs. 9. in the Scripture shown in Genesis. and with the tower of babel coming about after the descendants of noah had been growing and settling down, i believe the whole earth/world/land being spoken of is the area which was being repopulated after the flood, not the entire world with its' older civilizations. just my 2 pennies.
claudia
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