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dave:
Gen 3:16 And to the woman He says, "Multiplying, yea, multiplying am I your grief and the groaning of your pregnancy. In grief shall you bear sons. "Yet by your husband is your restoration, and he shall rule over you. (CLV)

Gen 3:16  Unto the woman He said, `Multiplying I multiply thy sorrow and thy conception, in sorrow dost thou bear children, and toward thy husband is thy desire, and he doth rule over thee.' (YLT)

Gen. 3:16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy pain and thy conception; in pain thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee. (ASV)

If I may ask, does this verse read that He (Lord God) already had it in His plan that woman would have  "had" pain in child birth, before eating the forbidden fruit? And that it would be increased(greatly) now and in the future?   
I find it interesting that He would chastise the woman who(m) He made  to bear children, and that the way He would use to correct her, was MORE pain than original.  Or am I off base?

Also I am told that the woman is the "soul" and that it is this soul that is the driving force of man. That it is the soul/woman that must come around. If this be true, why does it say that...
 "and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee."(ASV)
"Yet by your husband is your restoration, and he shall rule over you. (CLV)
thy husband is thy desire, and he doth rule over thee.' (YLT)

If it is the soul/woman is the force or appettite?

mharrell08:

--- Quote from: micah7:9 on April 24, 2011, 04:16:21 PM ---Also I am told that the woman is the "soul" and that it is this soul that is the driving force of man. That it is the soul/woman that must come around.
--- End quote ---


Who told you this? Is this from bible-truths?

dave:
NO! Absolutly not! I dont see it that way. I was reading and that verse stood out as a defence against that thought

dave:
If my posts and questions have no interest on this forum please let me know. I found BibleTruths and have found that 99% of what Ray teaches is biblical and very true to the Word. I also am able to think. Sometimes I read in the Bible and I have questions they do not fall in line with Ray or any other teaching, that is why I post. I have asked several questions from members of this forum that I consider well read and burdened with knowledge. Kat, mharrell08, Dave from Kentucy, and Samson among others.
I regard their veiws very highly. So if my questions are out of the realm of what I am supposed to ask, I apologize, it is not my intent.

longhorn:
I think it probably hurts to have a baby.  I mean, it just looks like it would. 

Longhorn

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