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jerry cabral:
That cool, not stepping on any toes here but interesting choice of men that people followed. A red flag for me would have been when they said they were The Christ, simple would have tested it with braking one bone to prove he wasnt but thats just me. The Bible is clear on where My Lord is and other things which are clear so some. Whether a man follows or not does not change My Lord or who he is(using he lightly for male and female in not spiritual but flesh)the Beloved born of The Father. He is Righteousness born of Love. I was told once being righteous ment being obidient to God, and being self-righteous was being obedient to ones self.
What ever I say only defiles myself. Nothing could change or taint the Truth only the persons perspective. Following Righteousness, is that not following The Lord. These bothers and sister commiting suicide one should allways do the best Pray for them as someone prayed for me. I ask my self whatever happens in this world were is my heart for in lies the Kingdom of God. I digress. Continually learning more and more about My King My Love My Lord in the Holy Sciptures(Old Testament) is were it is at. He is definitly His Fathers Son. God Bless
About those money making Preachers as Paul wrote in Phil 1;18 "What then? Only that in very way, whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is preached; and in this I rejoice, . Didnt bother him why should it bother me. I think he cared where my heart was.
Peace be with You.
hillsbororiver:
--- Quote from: jerry cabral ---That cool, not stepping on any toes here but interesting choice of men that people followed. A red flag for me would have been when they said they were The Christ, simple would have tested it with braking one bone to prove he wasnt but thats just me. The Bible is clear on where My Lord is and other things which are clear so some. Whether a man follows or not does not change My Lord or who he is(using he lightly for male and female in not spiritual but flesh)the Beloved born of The Father. He is Righteousness born of Love. I was told once being righteous ment being obidient to God, and being self-righteous was being obedient to ones self.
What ever I say only defiles myself. Nothing could change or taint the Truth only the persons perspective. Following Righteousness, is that not following The Lord. These bothers and sister commiting suicide one should allways do the best Pray for them as someone prayed for me. I ask my self whatever happens in this world were is my heart for in lies the Kingdom of God. I digress. Continually learning more and more about My King My Love My Lord in the Holy Sciptures(Old Testament) is were it is at. He is definitly His Fathers Son. God Bless
About those money making Preachers as Paul wrote in Phil 1;18 "What then? Only that in very way, whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is preached; and in this I rejoice, . Didnt bother him why should it bother me. I think he cared where my heart was.
Peace be with You.
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Hi Jerry, after reading Phi. Ch. 1, I could not see where Paul was addressing "money making preachers" perhaps you could clear this up for me, what I perceived him to be writing about had nothing to do with money. Please help me out. But I did find some other writings of Paul that warned us of false apostles, false brethren, false workers who might bring us into bondage.
2Co 11:13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
Gal 2:4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage:
Tithing is a form of bondage that seems to be universal in the TV preacher set. Many people feel guilt and hopelessness from what they preach, that the Lord would consign them to an eternal hellhole of extreme pain for not coughing up tithes and offerings to THEM! Sounds like doctrines of devils to me.
1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
Joe
hillsbororiver:
http://www.bible-truths.com/tithing.html
jerry cabral:
Your right, he wrote that some preach for their own self-ambition and not of love. I guess one would have to ask what motivates ones ambition. I find in my heart nothing wrong with giving especially if I have it, I mean even Abraham kick 10% of His to the chruch of that time. Who am I not to.
In my walk alway find one always using They and Them , They are Wrong They are the blind ones. Satan seperates, that his job. Close ourself off from Brothers or Church proves that. Who am I to choose the vessels which the Lord gives me answers.
hillsbororiver:
Hi Jerry, actually Abraham did not tithe, but I certainly agree that we should give with a cheerful heart, especially to the less fortunate and not only with food, clothes or money, but with our time.
Contributing $$$ toward armani suits, fancy cars, jets, and other worldly goods for selfish preachers who have no regard for the torment they inflict certainly doesn't qualify.
Joe
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