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zander:
Hi all

I dont often post here but i have a question if someone can answer me, especially if they know Ray well.

On March 2nd, Ray placed the subject in his answered emails section.  It seems he doesnt believe that the planets have any significance or show any sign regarding the existence of man and his past, present future.

Some time ago, i recall Ray telling me that all the planets and their existence was key to the life on this earth.  For example, without Saturn, there would be no earth, it would lack the gravitational equilibrium required to stabilise it.  Also, in the bible it states that the moon often gave signs for various events.

Now i am not saying i totally believe in it (however i am curious to know why certain events fall in line with certain planetary movements, which seems to happen when i look at life..) but i am trying to clarify Ray's position on it.

Can anyone tell me?

Craig:
Zander are you confusing Astrology with Astronomy?   Astronomically speaking Ray is correct, but I don't think astrology has any part in it.

Craig

zander:
Hi Craig

I dont believe to be confusing them, as i understand they're separate.  I can see why Ray from an astronomical viewpoint sees that the planets are important for our very existence.

I am of course thinking Ray's answer is no, he doesnt believe astrological viewpoints on such things.

I wonder why.  Were planets and the moon not seen as signs in the old biblical days?  Indeed the new moon was used many times in the book of Samuel as a sign for things.  I have also noticed its relevance in today's life, without going into details.

I dont rest my whole conscience on such things and like you i know God is in charge but i cant help seeing how the planets can sometimes move in harmony with events (according to his purpose).

I think its an unknown area and i am surprised Ray writes it off completely, if, as i understand, he does.

mharrell08:

--- Quote from: zander on May 19, 2011, 10:51:35 AM ---I think its an unknown area and i am surprised Ray writes it off completely, if, as i understand, he does.
--- End quote ---


The issue seems to be one's expectations about Ray. Ray's never stated he knows everything about everything but sometimes we treat him so, and that's not fair to him. We can't expect Ray to know about every event in the universe and it's spiritual significance. He's not God.

If one of us deems something of importance and Ray doesn't bat an eye, what then? Do we change our thinking to match his or simply go about our business? I hope it would be the latter. We don't all have to think exactly the same about every single thing in this universe, it's unreasonable.

I'm not jumping on your case or anything Zander, just trying to provide another perspective. No offense



Marques

zander:
Nah not at all mate :)

I definitely don't try to think like Ray thinks.  Hes a very wise man and i thank him for his contributions theyre astounding. 

As he has such an intelligent brain, its good for me to know why and how we might differ on something like astrology.  Its good to get his perspective even though we may disagree.  I dont know, ive never spoken with him directly over it for too long a period.

But all good, i appreciate your response.

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