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Akira329:
Why does an invisible God create a physical universe ???
I never asked why.
I never thought of how much I didn't think about the Father till Ray brought along these studies from 2007 till now!!

Antaiwan

indianabob:
friend akira329

I wonder if we have considered that God may not be invisible in the spiritual realm.
We are told that God is not visible to our eyes which are limited to a fraction of "physical" radiation.
However, the apparent fact that God made humans to have limited physical vision
and not be able to see God does not prove that God is invisible in His essence.
This idea may carry over to God's shape. Why do we think that God needed a pattern in order
to build the shape of mankind? When God built the earth for MAN he planned for the man to have
mobility (legs, arms, fingers) and the five senses in order to be able to experience life or living on the earth and to learn
from the experience. None of this requires that God be restricted to similar limitations.
God is the ultimate creator, inventor, engineer and would not need a pattern to guide Him.

Just commenting on a thought that came to mind when reading your message.

Kindly, Indiana bob

Stacey:
I have never believed that the Father and Jesus are one and the same. Hopefully Ray will shed new light on this. I think He was leaning towards these thoughts a little at the last meeting.

dave:
Im calling it a night but I find the study very......thanks ;)

Samson:
Hi Kat,

Thankyou for Posting Your Email to Ray with subsequent comments, well appreciated. I read it last night at work using my Cell Phone. Much to reflect on and think about first before making an intelligent Post.

Don't want to just give opinion's and cause any confusion on such a deep Topic. However, thought it might be a good idea to mention the Main varying beliefs that were held by the so-called "Christians" in the Third Century CE. Only for the purpose of demonstrating how difficulty it is in attempting to ascertain exactly Who & What God is and What His Nature consists of, especially when examining the relationship between God The Father & His Son Jesus(Jehovah) who also possesses Full Deity.

I thought that Indiana Bob made a valid point, shown below for reference, as to being able to see God if one was in the Spiritual Realm, but unseen to those who live in the flesh.

friend akira329

I wonder if we have considered that God may not be invisible in the spiritual realm.
We are told that God is not visible to our eyes which are limited to a fraction of "physical" radiation.
However, the apparent fact that God made humans to have limited physical vision
and not be able to see God does not prove that God is invisible in His essence.
This idea may carry over to God's shape. Why do we think that God needed a pattern in order
to build the shape of mankind? When God built the earth for MAN he planned for the man to have
mobility (legs, arms, fingers) and the five senses in order to be able to experience life or living on the earth and to learn
from the experience. None of this requires that God be restricted to similar limitations.
God is the ultimate creator, inventor, engineer and would not need a pattern to guide Him.

Just commenting on a thought that came to mind when reading your message.

Kindly, Indiana bob

I will express My take on all of this when one of My Days off arrives, don't want to be too impatient & hasty, before making a well thought out reply.

                              Thanks, Samson.

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