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Kat:
Hi Mike,
Welcome to the forum :)
--- Quote ---Also, I see where Ray is going to be starting a study in his home, is there a way we can find out when and where this will be? I'd love to attend and listen and learn some more from Ray himself.
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Ray had monthly Bible studies up until his illness a few years ago. When he determines to have oa Bible study it will be announced on his BT site and here. We did have one a couple months ago and he does want to have a follow up to it. He is researching and studying and it may well take months before he is ready to have another one.
I want to give you some links to some of the stuff we have available here that you may want yo check it out.
The forum rules, it will help you see how this forum is moderated.
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,3.0.html
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,4558.0.html
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,3614.0.html
Forum Indexes & lots of Info.
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/board,14.0.html
Ray's Videos
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,8227.0.html
Ray's Audios
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,2641.0.html
Ray's 2008 Audios
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,8256.0.html
Transcripts of Ray's Audios
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/board,12.0.html
Who Am I? (members pics and personal stuff)
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/board,16.0.html
mercy, peace and love
Kat
JohnMichael:
--- Quote from: mikejody on June 18, 2011, 10:50:49 AM ---Thank you so much, John.
So just to be clear, by your answer here you understand churches (lower case c)/denominations to be part of Babylon that true believers are to come out of. I take it that means that Ray (and I assume those who study his writings) do not go to a particular church/Babylon?
The main reason I was asking was because I was hoping that Ray would "call the elders" since he was sick. Possibly he has already done this. We are just praying for him is all and hoping to hear good news about his health!
Thank you for letting me know about Ray's study, I do hope it is near us as we would love to go.
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Responding to the part I bolded, the general answer to your question is yes. Any church you see on the highway or roadside is a daughter of Babylon. Ray writes about this in his paper, "The Synagogue of Satan - There's One Near You." http://bible-truths.com/lake10.html God does indeed command His chosen to "Come out of her, My people that you be not partakers of her sins, and that you receive not her plagues." (Rev 18:4)
There are some who may still attend churches for various reasons, but they no longer see the messages in the same light as they did when they were still spiritually blind and deceived. First comes the physical, then the spiritual. :)
Blessings,
John
Edit: Misquote fixed
markn902:
boy they nailed it in the last few responses."Revelation of John 18:4:
And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that you be not partakers of her sins, and that you receive not of her plagues. "
that is a huge step for all of us when it happens..we let go of the importance and reverence that we gave to "learned" people in the church. Up to this point we gave our trust and hearts to pastors, elders, priests, what have you.
At this point we smash that middleman and learn true faith in what we cannot see or touch. It's scary as some of these values have been taught to us since we were little children and we have come to associate these organizations with God and vice versa. At first it goes against the grain of everything we feel but as we go forward we feel something else. This something else is Love..liberating, all encompassing, and true.
Sorry to go all dramatic on ya but I am recounting how it felt for me. I hope it feels the same way for you :)
grapehound:
Way to go Markn902 !
Linny, thanks for those awesome links of Rays.
Grape x
Wonone:
God is good! Truly good!
About an hour ago, as in a fog, it struck me: If I am too grow, I need the fellowship of similar minded people, who wrestle with similar questions! And BT forum came to mind.
Then, do not tell me it is an accident, I come across Linny's:
--- Quote ---If you go to "a church" composed of people who are NOT "like-minded believers of the truth," as yourself, how is it that you think that you can "fellowship" with them? "Be ye NOT unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what FELLOWSHIP has righteousness what unrighteousness? and what communion has light with darkness....WHEREFORE COME OUT FROM AMONG THEM, AND BE YE SEPARATE, says the Lord...." (II Cor. 6:14-18. See also Rev. 18:4).
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God truly directs our steps. It is astonishing to what extent God is in control!
Blessings and welcome Mike!
Lazar
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