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River:
Hi,
 
 Such a nice welcome from all. Thank you much. Thanks also for all the comments, it is nice to relate and to see the perspectives you all have. I am hopeful to learn more and to endure what I must to get where I am suppose to go.

River

JohnMichael:
Hi River,

Welcome to the forums. :)

To answer your question: Yes, I have. Even in my course studies, they make sure to add "by his/her own free will" in every chance they can get.

Interestingly, just as an example, once upon a time, prior to the Age of Reason (Enlightenment, its other name, is a misnomer), crime was believed to be a result of Divine fate - that people were criminals because God had ordained them to be such (Vessels of Honor and Dishonor). Then, along came "philosophers," and they started to preach that man chooses "of his own free will" to either obey laws or break them.

I'm sure this particular heresy was around long before that particular time period though.

Ecc 1:9  The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.

In Him,
John

DougE6:
[quoteNot having a free will coupled to an acceptance that God controls everything can lead to a false sense of pleasure. Non are responsible all are accountable. God is blameless. ][/quote]

Thank you Arcturus, this is so true. We must never confuse the truth of NO free will with the false sense of license; meaning, well, I did it, so God willed it, so maybe I will do it some more. That attitude will heap judgement on your head. Walk circumspectly with these great truths; make absolutely sure in your heart of hearts you do not use them as an excuse to allow yourself to not resist sin and evil.

servias:

--- Quote from: DougE6 on August 06, 2011, 09:24:33 PM ---Not having a free will coupled to an acceptance that God controls everything can lead to a false sense of pleasure. Non are responsible all are accountable. God is blameless.

Thank you Arcturus, this is so true. We must never confuse the truth of NO free will with the false sense of license; meaning, well, I did it, so God willed it, so maybe I will do it some more. That attitude will heap judgement on your head. Walk circumspectly with these great truths; make absolutely sure in your heart of hearts you do not use them as an excuse to allow yourself to not resist sin and evil.

--- End quote ---


I think that's exactly why not many know of this truth.  Its for their own good!

River:
Hummm since a person is not in control then I don't really think it is possible. An excuse is just a persons way of saying what they think is why something happen, it doesn't mean it is true or the exact reason it did. Excuse or no excuse what is meant to happen will and we aren't getting in the way.  ;)

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