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Rene:
--- Quote from: markn902 on August 03, 2011, 10:17:38 PM ---Sometimes I think the best of us can THINK way too much about things that are not that important. This is not some life changing spiritual revelation it is , at best, a theory that can never be proven
my two cents anyway
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I believe all truth is important, all truth is life changing, and all truth will be revealed. Just my half a cent of an opinion. :D
John 8:31-32 - Jesus, therefore, said unto the Jews who believed in him, `If ye may remain in my word, truly my disciples ye are, and ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.' (Young's Literal Translation)
René
markn902:
All very good points! :)
I always respect and value the input and opinions of every member of this forum. And you are right any searching for truth in the Bible has a value all it's own and should never be discouraged.
Mark
Marky Mark:
Knowing that the words of God are spirit and not physical should give us a better understanding of what Gods name really is. Our own names in the flesh come from the parents that we come out of,our physical fathers and mothers.We then use our fleshy fathers surname because we are of the same line of fleshly heritage.
Spiritually speaking, when we are in Jesus and Jesus is in the Father and The Father and Jesus are in us that is how we become the true namesake [sons] of God by having His Spiritual name and character within.Our Spiritual name [written on a white stone] is the same as our Fathers name in heaven if we know His Spirit and do as He says through His Word.
Luk 6:46 Now why are you calling Me 'Lord,' and are not doing what I am saying?
Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
When we do the will of the Father and keep His Word we then know His name[and the joy thereof] and what that name stands for by the knowledge of His Word. We become one in the Truth of His name.
Joh 17:6 I have given knowledge of your name to the men whom you gave me out of the world: yours they were, and you gave them to me, and they have kept your words.
Joh 17:8 Because I have given them the words which you gave to me; and they have taken them to heart, and have certain knowledge that I came from you, and they have faith that you sent me.
Joh 17:11 And now I will be no longer in the world, but they are in the world and I come to you. Holy Father, keep them in your name which you have given to me, so that they may be one even as we are one.
When we do not have Gods name in us,that is,His Spirit, this is the outcome.
Rom 2:24 For because of you the name of God is being blasphemed among the nations, according as it is written."
1Ti 6:1 Let all who are servants under the yoke give all honour to their masters, so that no evil may be said against the name of God and his teaching.
Rev 16:9 And men were burned with great heat: and they said evil things against the name of the God who has authority over these punishments; and they were not turned from their evil ways to give him glory.
Here is what a good name is,knowing none is good but the Father.
Mat 19:17 And He said to him, Why do you call Me good? There is none good but one, that is, God. But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.
Ecc 7:1 A good name is better than oil of great price, and the day of death than the day of birth.
Pro 22:1 A good name is to be chosen rather than great riches; Grace is better than silver and gold..
When we have the name of God written within us by overcoming the things of the flesh, that same name is the hidden manna [bread;Christ] of the Fathers Spirit.
Rev 2:17 The one who has an ear, hear what the Spirit says to the assemblies. To the one overcoming, I will give him to eat from the hidden manna. And I will give to him a white stone, and on the stone a new name having been written, which no one knows except the one receiving it.
Because by knowing who God is and what His name stands for we can have life eternal.
Joh 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
Rev 3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.
Rev 3:13 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
Peace...Mark
onelovedread:
I was just going through emails to Ray and this one came up:
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,279.0/prev_next,prev.html#new
COMMENT (Ray's): No, no contradictions. Moses didn't see God the Father, he saw and spoke with Jehovah Who IS JESUS CHRIST. By the way, that happened in Deuteronomy, however, not Genesis. And No, Jesus was not THE FATHER IN THE FLESH. Jesus was JEHOVAH in the flesh.
Just wondering if there's any connection between this and what Ray's about to drop....
bpenelli:
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,12075.0.html
Dear Andy:
Thank you for your email and questions. I'm afraid that I cannot go into much detail at present, although I have spend
probably a couple of hundred hours on this subject this past year, and intend to write a paper on it in the future, but not
today. It will probbly be titled: "Is Jesus GOD?"
A couple of things: When I wrote that paper on the Trinity (about ten years ago), I unfortunately allowed myself to use terms
that trinitarians use (example, "person"). I have since spend many many hours in the Scriptures on the trinitarian use of
that word "person." It is a most unforunate choice of words to describe God. Conclusion: Jesus IS a person, whereas
His Father is NOT a person. Don't have time to prove it now, but that's the truth. And no, I do not teach that the Holy
Spirit OF God is a person. I have no idea where you thought that I might be teaching that.
While it is true that Jesus did NOT say: "I and My Father are One GOD," there nonetheless, needs further clarification
on that verse, which I did not cover in my paper. My new paper will be rather lengthy, I'm afraid, as the subject of the
divinity of Jesus is a huge subject.
Here is another point for you to ponder until my paper comes out (and no, it won't be in the six months, so don't be
looking for it any time soon). Look at I Cor. 8:6 again. Notice that it does not say, "But to us there is but one God, the Father."
(Period). Nor does it say, "One Lord Jesus Christ." (Period). There is more to consider. Is this verse saying that "God the
Father" is the ONLY God," and that Jesus, therefore cannot also be "God?" For sure Jesus can't be HIS OWN FATHER, but
can Jesus also be "the ONE God?" Look at that first statement again, as it IS in the Scripture as I will re-emphasize the
words to make this one point: "But to us there is but ONE God, the Father, OF WHOM ARE ALL THINGS." There is only
One God, the Father, OUT OF Whom ALL IS" (Concordant Literal New Testament and The Emphatic Diaglott). Then
concerning Jesus we read: "One Lord Jesus Christ, BY Whom are all things."
"Of" and "by" are two different words--"of" is applied to the Father, where as "by" is applied to the Son. Actually the word
"by" is better translated "through," but that doesn't change the fact that they are different and are applied to different actions.
(See Rotherham's emphasized Bible, The Emphatic Diaglott, and The Concordant Literal New Testament for verification
of the word "through"). All creation is "OF" God the Father, but since Jesus was also created, not all creation is OF Jesus.
But the act of creation is attributed to Jesus (See I Collosians, etc.), hence it is "through" Jesus that all the things of creation
are brought into existence by or "through" Jesus Christ.
I'll have to end with that. As I said, this is a very large subject, but I will try to write on it in the future, God willing.
God be with you,
Ray
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