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Did you catch this????
geokuhns:
When Ray completes his research on this I hope he holds a bible study on it and has it video taped. God willing. :)
lilitalienboi16:
Didn't ray say that God was like a title, or a last name and not a being. Such as ray used the example of him being a smith, and his son being a smith but that he is the father of his son yet they are both smiths?
That's how I've always looked at it, from the way put it out like that in one of his conferences I believe. I could be wrong.
This is all so very interested though and I can't wait for rays expounding on this subject!
AK4:
--- Quote from: Kat on July 27, 2011, 07:37:31 AM ---
Hi Anthony,
There has been so many questions about this subject and yes Ray has been dropping many hints, if you catch them :) Here is a resent email that I think goes right along with what you are saying.
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,13157.0.html ----------
I have said for many years that "Jesus IS GOD" (see pp 22-23
of my article "God is NOT a Trinity). But if Jesus IS God and His Father IS God
don't we then have TWO GODS? There is ONLY ONE GOD!
but there is so much more to this teaching that just solving the riddle of how the Father and Son can both be God if..... I say IF they are separate Beings with separate personalities.
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mercy, peace and love
Kat
--- End quote ---
Hi Kat,
Yea i did catch that too and honestly on that it smells of the trinity to me but then again Ray must have been shown something from God, so i wait patiently [really impatiently :'(] to see what he has been shown. There was another email where Ray dropped another clue, i am going to see if i can find it.
In Jesus
Anthony
Kat:
Hi Anthony,
The truth is what it is and we can not let anything stand in our way of reaching whatever it may be. I know I have had to unlearn so much junk, but who knows maybe we will find out a truth is close to something we had thrown out. Maybe we will have to rethink how we look at something. We cannot let anything in this world stand in my way from coming to know who God is. Ray's study should be able to explain this in detail as he does that will give us tons of Scripture to help us understand it.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
JohnMichael:
Add to that this quote from Ray's July 27th letter (first thread in General Discussions):
--- Quote ---What we can do is eliminate all of the popular theories of Who God is, including: [1] a trinity of three different persons, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, [2] a dual God consisting of Father and Son, excluding the Holy Spirit, and [3] the Father only, excluding both the Holy Spirit and the Son.
All three of these theories are wrong and unscriptural, though there are millions who are convinced that God is either #1 or #3. God is neither #1, #2, or #3, and I can prove it. There is no problem with excluding the Holy Spirit from the divine Godhead. The problem or enigma lies with the fact that the Scriptures clearly show that Jesus and His Father have Both existed from the beginning; Both are credited with creating the heavens and earth; Both exhibit all of the qualities of Deity; and Both are called God Yet the Scriptures state a dozen times that there is but ONE GOD! That's the enigma that needs solving. It's not that the proponents of these three theories are evil or stupid, but rather they do not harmonize all of the Scriptures. There are major Scriptural problems with all of the popular Christian theories as to just Who constitutes the divine nature of God--the Godhead.
The theory which comes closest to blaspheming the Name of God, however, is the 3rd one which not only totally denies the deity of Jesus, but lowers Him to nothing better than a lucky Jewish boy who grew up to age 33 without sinning. He was admittedly an outstanding citizen, an honor to His race, but nothing more. All those who have been hoodwinked into believing such an incredible lie will be be so embarrassed when they learn the truth that they will want to crawl under a rock and hide! I assure you all, that when the time came to die for the sins of the world, the Father did not say: "Son, YOU DO IT--I'll watch from up here."
--- End quote ---
Ray is definitely dropping hints, and I'm very excited to see this article when he finishes it - God willing.
In Him,
John
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