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dave:
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--- Quote from: micah7:9 on July 27, 2011, 03:02:42 PM ---So there are no individual minds working in this body, only one. So when we are ALL in ALL where is the individual in all this?
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Who says there are no individual minds working in one body?
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Well arent we to have the mind of Christ?
1Co 1:10 Now I am entreating you, brethren, through the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all may be saying the same thing, and there may be no schisms among you, but you may be attuned to the same mind and to the same opinion."
Kat:
1Co 2:11 It is only our own spirit within us that knows all about us; in the same way, only God's Spirit knows all about God.
v. 12 We have not received this world's spirit; instead, we have received the Spirit sent by God, so that we may know all that God has given us.
v. 13 So then, we do not speak in words taught by human wisdom, but in words taught by the Spirit, as we explain spiritual truths to those who have the Spirit.
v. 14 Whoever does not have the Spirit cannot receive the gifts that come from God's Spirit. Such a person really does not understand them, and they seem to be nonsense, because their value can be judged only on a spiritual basis.
v. 15 Whoever has the Spirit, however, is able to judge the value of everything, but no one is able to judge him.
v. 16 As the scripture says, "Who knows the mind of the Lord? Who is able to give him advice?" We, however, have the mind of Christ. (GNB)
This is Paul speaking now "we, however, have the mind of Christ." The mind of Christ is from His Spirit indwelling that gives us eyes to see these spiritual truths. But now we also still have the pull of the carnal flesh, that will not be the case when we are spirit and fully born into the kingdom.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
dave:
--- Quote from: Kat on July 27, 2011, 03:57:12 PM ---
1Co 2:11 It is only our own spirit within us that knows all about us; in the same way, only God's Spirit knows all about God.
v. 12 We have not received this world's spirit; instead, we have received the Spirit sent by God, so that we may know all that God has given us.
v. 13 So then, we do not speak in words taught by human wisdom, but in words taught by the Spirit, as we explain spiritual truths to those who have the Spirit.
v. 14 Whoever does not have the Spirit cannot receive the gifts that come from God's Spirit. Such a person really does not understand them, and they seem to be nonsense, because their value can be judged only on a spiritual basis.
v. 15 Whoever has the Spirit, however, is able to judge the value of everything, but no one is able to judge him.
v. 16 As the scripture says, "Who knows the mind of the Lord? Who is able to give him advice?" We, however, have the mind of Christ. (GNB)
This is Paul speaking now "we, however, have the mind of Christ." The mind of Christ is from His Spirit indwelling that gives us eyes to see these spiritual truths. But now we also still have the pull of the carnal flesh, that will not be the case when we are spirit and fully born into the kingdom.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
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Amen!
mharrell08:
--- Quote from: micah7:9 on July 27, 2011, 03:24:04 PM ---Well arent we to have the mind of Christ?
1Co 1:10 Now I am entreating you, brethren, through the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all may be saying the same thing, and there may be no schisms among you, but you may be attuned to the same mind and to the same opinion."
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Yes, and to have the mind of Christ means to have the same mindset or type of thoughts. Not to share the same single mind. People won't lose their personality or individuality...those things are not sins to have. It's the way people think that needs to be cleansed.
John from Kentucky:
Let me throw a monkey wrench into the discussion.
In another thread called "Re: Did you catch this?", Kat quoted a recent email from Ray. In discussing The Father and Jesus, Ray said, "I say IF they are separate Beings with separate personalities."
Ray is moving far ahead of most of us and even some of his past writings.
If the Father and Jesus are not separate, but are indeed One God. Well that changes a lot of my understandings of things concerning God. What Ray is currently studying has profound ramifications. I wonder how open minded some of us will be to where the Spirit and the Scriptures may be taking us.
The matter seems to come down to: Are the Father and Jesus two separate beings? Two minds? Two wills? Two Gods?
Or, are They One God? One Mind? One Will? One Personality?
This matter puzzles me greatly. I wish Ray hadn't got me thinking on this subject. It makes the mind go round and round. I am greatly anticipating reading Ray's scriptural analysis of this issue.
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