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Love One Another
G. Driggs:
I guess for me sometimes it's hard, and sometimes it's easy. But I do see this type of love Ray describes often in the forum.
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,7047.0.html
v. 15 Whosoever hates his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal (eonian or age lasting) life abiding in him.
v. 16 Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.
It doesn’t mean we are to go out and let a truck drive over you, it just means you should serve. When you use your time, your money, your effort, your energy, your emotions to help somebody else, whether it be a friend, a neighbor, your husband, your wife, your children to the extent you do. All the time doing, thinking, praising, helping someone else, you are laying your life down for them. I mean living, breathing, moving, doing, saying - that’s life. When all your living, breathing, doing… when a lot of that is directed towards somebody who will profit from your looking after them and being concerned, that’s laying down your life. That’s how you lay down your life, without actually dying.
v. 17 But whoso hath this world's good, and sees his brother have need, and shuts up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwells the love of God in him?
v. 18 My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth.
v. 19 And hereby we know that we are of the truth, and shall assure our hearts before him.
v. 20 For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knows all things.
v. 21 Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, then have we confidence toward God.
v. 22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep His commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in His sight.
v. 23 And this is His commandment, That we should believe on the name of His Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as He gave us commandment.
v. 24 And he that keeps His commandments dwells in Him, and He in him. And hereby we know that He abides in us, by the Spirit which He hath given us.
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Peace & LOVE y'all. :)
G.Driggs
Joel:
Hi Rene,
When I read your post the first scripture that came to mind is;
1 Peter 4:8 (KJV)
And above all things have fervent charity among yourselves: for charity shall cover the multitude of sins.
(TLB)
Most important of all, continue to show deep love for each other, for love makes up for many of your faults.
(TAB)
Above all things have intense and unfailing love for one another, for love covers a multitude of sins-forgives and disregards the offenses of others.
I use to have a lot of hate for others in the world before I came to BT, maybe not so much hate, but intolerance and disdain, discuss, disapproval, what ever, but now I can see more these days how that "God so loved the world".
Even though I have never seen any of you personally, I feel that there is that kindred Spirit amongst the forum members. We haven't met any of the people of God that we read about in the Bible either, sort of the same thing I suppose. :)
Joel
DougE6:
--- Quote --- I think the main thing is to not wish or want evil upon any of them...especially more so the ones you love less than others.
--- End quote ---
To be perfectly honest this seems weak too me. At best, its kind of like a "passive" love, if love can ever actually be passive. Is that all "love" is? Just not wishing or wanting evil on anyone?
I think God would feel that is lukewarm at best. And we know what Jesus says about lukewarmness. I think Love is not just passive, but actively acts for the welfare and betterment and well being of the loved one. Are you really saying that love, Jesus love, means not getting personally involved? Just benevolent indifference, because you stay away from them? if you are, thats a pretty darn easy standard to meet.
Mat 5:46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?
Mat 5:47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?
I think Jesus has a lot more in mind, being a whole lot more than what the world or publicans do. I think real love will ACTIVELY get involved and will ACTIVELY give of itself. Somehow I think that is so beyond human nature, so far beyond the publican, that only that is of God. Passive "love" not demonstrated by action, does not pass the love test, to me. It passes the nice guy test, only.
hummer:
Hi Rene,
Yes Rene this Commandment TO LOVE ONE ANOTHER is very important as it is stated for emphasis many times throughout the Scriptures as you eluded to. There are Scritures giving believers instructions on what to do to LOVE ONE ANOTHER. Other give results of Loving One Another. John 13:34 " A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, even as I have loved you, that you also love one another. Result (35) "By this all men will know you are My disciples, if you have love for one another. 1John 3:23 This is His commandment that we believe in the name of His Son Jesus Christ, and love One another, just as He commanded us. Why is this important (24) The one who keeps His commandments abides in Him, an He in him. We know by this that He abides in us, by the Spirit He has given us. Is it difficult? I don't know. For some yes for others it maybe easier. I believe it all depends on God with each believer.
Hummer
mharrell08:
--- Quote from: DougE6 on August 11, 2011, 09:14:01 PM ---
--- Quote --- I think the main thing is to not wish or want evil upon any of them...especially more so the ones you love less than others.
--- End quote ---
To be perfectly honest this seems weak too me. At best, its kind of like a "passive" love, if love can ever actually be passive. Is that all "love" is? Just not wishing or wanting evil on anyone?
I think God would feel that is lukewarm at best. And we know what Jesus says about lukewarmness. I think Love is not just passive, but actively acts for the welfare and betterment and well being of the loved one. Are you really saying that love, Jesus love, means not getting personally involved? Just benevolent indifference, because you stay away from them? if you are, thats a pretty darn easy standard to meet.
Mat 5:46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?
Mat 5:47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?
I think Jesus has a lot more in mind, being a whole lot more than what the world or publicans do. I think real love will ACTIVELY get involved and will ACTIVELY give of itself. Somehow I think that is so beyond human nature, so far beyond the publican, that only that is of God. Passive "love" not demonstrated by action, does not pass the love test, to me. It passes the nice guy test, only.
--- End quote ---
As I said, the MAIN thing is to not wish or want evil upon anyone, not the ONLY thing. If you have evil in your hearts towards anyone, being 'active' in helping them only makes you a hypocrite, even if it's only something God can see. I'm talking about cleaning the inside of the cup first before the outside, not vice-versa.
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