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Was Jesus born with the Holy Spirit?
indianabob:
Was Jesus born with the Holy Spirit?
I've always believed this to be true, but, does the scripture actually say this??
We seem to be accepting that Jesus had the holy spirit of God in full measure.
To protect, to guide, to inspire etc.
What does that mean in relation to how we are indwelt with God's spirit?
Indiana Bob
Kat:
Hi Micah,
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I've always believed this to be true, but, does the scripture actually say this??
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Mat 1:23 "Behold, the virgin shall conceive in her womb, and will bear a son. And they will call His name Emmanuel," which being interpreted is, God with us.
This Scripture says that He was "Emmanuel... God with us," this is even before Jesus' birth and it declares Jesus is "God with us."
Luke 2:40 and the child grew and was strengthened in spirit, being filled with wisdom, and the grace (divine influence on the heart) of God was upon Him.
Does that mean that He had the Holy Spirit from birth, most certainly.
Col 1:15 who is the image of the invisible God, the First-born of all creation.
Col 1:19 For it pleased the Father that in Him all fullness should dwell.
I believe He was the image of God the Father before He was born, while on earth and is now.
--- Quote ---We seem to be accepting that Jesus had the holy spirit of God in full measure.
To protect, to guide, to inspire etc.
What does that mean in relation to how we are indwelt with God's spirit?
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Col 1:27 to whom God did will to make known what is the riches of the glory of this secret among the nations--which is Christ in you, the hope of the glory,
The Holy Spirit is "Christ in you," His very nature is what works in us and that is what gives us peace and assurance.
2Pe 1:3-4 His divine power has granted to us all things that pertain to life and godliness, through the knowledge of Him who called us to His own glory and excellence, by which He has granted to us His precious and very great promises, so that through them you may become partakers of the divine nature, having escaped from the corruption that is in the world because of sinful desire.
John 16:33 I have spoken these things to you so that you might have peace in Me. In the world you shall have tribulation, but be of good cheer. I have overcome the world.
We know that Christ overcame the world and it is only by His Spirit indwelling that He through us can overcome the world as well.
1John 4:4 You are of God, little children, and you have overcome them, because He who is in you is greater than he who is in the world.
1John 5:4 For whatsoever is begotten of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that hath overcome the world, even our faith.
1John 5:12 He that hath the Son hath the life; he that hath not the Son of God hath not the life.
v. 13 These things have I written unto you, that ye may know that ye have eternal life, even unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God.
1John 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we know Him that is true, and we are in Him that is true, even in His Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
Hope this helps.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
GaryK:
Good questions Bob.
I wonder the importance of this verse here, in other words, why the spirit of God descending if he already had the spirit of God?
.......and who is the 'he' in 'he saw'?....John or Jesus?
I suppose the greater question is, what are we supposed to take away from this?
gk
Matthew 3:16
King James Version (KJV)
16And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
Kat:
Here's the Scripture of what JFK was speaking.
John 1:29 The next day John sees Jesus coming to him and says, Behold the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!
v. 30 This is He of whom I said, After me comes a Man who has been before me, for He preceded me.
v. 31 And I did not know Him, but that He be revealed to Israel, therefore I have come baptizing with water.
v. 32 And John bore record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from Heaven like a dove, and He abode on Him.
v. 33 And I did not know Him, but He who sent me to baptize with water, that One said to me, Upon whom you shall see the Spirit descending, and remaining upon Him, He is the One who baptizes with the Holy Spirit.
v. 34 And I saw and bore record that this is the Son of God.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
GaryK:
Yet further proof that Ray is right..........
"read ALL the words"
Thank you both.
Caveman back to cave now. Ugh'em.
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