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Pledge to the Christian Flag
believerchrist100:
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--- Quote from: John from Kentucky on September 08, 2011, 01:11:21 PM ---It looks like a cool flag for a Christian Knight to put on his lance as he charges into a horde of Muslim fanatic warriors. What fun!
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Good point John. Now that I think about it some variation of this "Flag with a cross" has been around since the knights templar. I have feeling it somehow originated with the free masons. Not sure why I didn't think of this initially. Especially considering my grandfather and great grandfather were both 33rd degree scottish rite masons. I have studied quite a bit regarding the free masons so this doesn't surprise upon further reflection
As a matter of fact, the mason's sword I own, which belonged to my great grandfather, has a flag with a cross on it being carried by knights. Undoubtedly there is a connection between these which bring even greater significance to the UN-Christian origins of this symbol.
So yeah, thanks John for your random comment, it helped me think a little bit haha!
Also, I know there is an official story of how it came about but I wonder why it caught on so fast? Like why would it be required by churches to make children say this nonsense of a pledge?
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Hi Foxx,
This thread sparked my interest a bit and I did some googling and found a couple of articles, here's one from christianitytoday.com:
The Christian flag dates back to an impromptu speech given by Charles C. Overton, a Sunday school superintendent in New York, on September 26, 1897. The guest speaker for the Sunday school kick-off didn't show up, so Overton had to wing it. Spying an American flag near the podium, he started talking about flags and their symbolism. Along the way he proposed that Christians should have their own flag—an idea that stayed on his mind long after the speech. In 1907 Overton teamed up with Ralph Diffendorfer, secretary to the Methodist Young People's Missionary Movement, to produce and promote the flag.
The colors on the flag, not surprisingly, match those on the American flag. White represents purity and peace, blue indicates fidelity, and red stands for Christ's blood sacrifice.
The first pledge to the Christian flag was written by Methodist pastor Lynn Harold Hough, who heard Diffendorfer's flag presentation at a rally. Hough, a liberal, wrote a fairly broad pledge: "I pledge allegiance to my flag and the Savior for whose kingdom it stands; one brotherhood uniting all mankind in service and love." Conservative churches generally use a more detailed version: "I pledge allegiance to the Christian flag, and to the Savior for whose kingdom it stands; one Savior, crucified, risen, and coming again with life and liberty to all who believe."
The pledge isn't the only aspect of the Christian flag that has caused controversy over the years. Churches have struggled with the flag's placement in relation to the American flag, its implied link between faith and patriotism, and whether flags belong in a sanctuary at all. For more on those debates, see the essay at the Bob Jones University website.
Hope this is somewhat what you were looking for.
Patrick
Ian:
--- Quote from: John from Kentucky on September 08, 2011, 01:11:21 PM ---It looks like a cool flag for a Christian Knight to put on his lance as he charges into a horde of Muslim fanatic warriors. What fun!
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But I like Muslims...
As for the flag, it seems really kind of...odd.
JohnMichael:
The "Christian" flag always creeped me out for some reason. ;D
DougE6:
I have a Christian Flag flapping in the breeze right outside my house right now. I think it is a good tribute to my faith.
OK see my next post....
DougE6:
Just kidding! JUST KIDDING! Just kidding. ;D ;D ;D
Go PACKERS!
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