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zander:
Lets say you meet someone.  I dont have a length of time by which the relationship could last, so lets just say you meet someone.  At what point does it become appropriate to have sex with them?

Now, i asked Ray some years ago whether a "physical" marriage was needed to recognise "marriage".  Did we need the whole church ceremony or ceremony of any kind.  Of course, as i expected, his answer was no.

So its always got me thinking - at what point does it become appropriate to bond with someone in this way?  The way i currently see it, is that if you meet someone out, and lets say you sleep with them that night. Then you end up staying with that same partner without cheating until so the relationship ends for whatever reason - that is a marriage.  Conversely, if you meet someone and wait months until you sleep with them etc..that too is a marriage...I could be wrong of course.  Any pointers?

arion:
Ray does address this on an audio but for the life of me I can't remember which one.  Hopefully someone else will jump in.  There is a reason why the marriage is sanctified with a ceremony and a ring and it's a biblical concept.  Marriage is supposed to be entered into with the concept of a life long commitment.  It's not jumping from one partner to another.  In the scriptures that is called fornication and will be judged.  You don't casually meet someone and decided to have sexual relations with them and call it a 'marriage'.  I think if we are honest with ourselves we all realize this.  The biblical model is one man and one woman for as long as they both shall live....period.  There are biblical grounds for divorce but I don't think that is what we are addressing here.

zander:
At the moment, i dont see anything that is a physical symbol (ceremony/ring) to be of significance anymore.  Jumping into bed with various people is one thing, but as i say, sleeping with someone (at any point within the relationship) and then having a relationship[ with them is - to me - at the moment - a marriage. if i was stuck on an Island with someone and no else around, i probably wouldnt think i need all the physical marriage stuff to sanctify it...again, opinions?

Cypress:
Yes, Ray talks about marriage in audios on this page: hope the link comes out.

http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,2641.0.html

mharrell08:
Email reply from Ray (http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,2679.msg19948.html#msg19948):

Dear Reader:

    Pre-marital sex is just as much a sin as extra-marital sex. If you want to

    sleep together, get married.  If you don't love each enough to marry,

    don't sleep together..

    God be with you,

    Ray


Email reply from Ray (http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,4112.msg31428.html#msg31428):

Dear Nicky:  That is a very broad and general question, especially in the light of the fact that your email is mostly centered around pre-marital sex. You already conceded that you agree pre-marital sex is not the godly thing to do. What you need to do then is have godly relationship. Obey the teachings of Jesus Christ. How do you do that? Well I don't think that I can explain it in an email. Read the material on our site. If kissing is long and passionate, then it will lead to lust which will lead you right back to intercourse and other such things.  It is no great mystery as to what things are wholesome and what things are lusts of the flesh. And, NO! you can't sleep with your girlfriend to "make her feel safe."  Come on..........................jus how close do you think you can get to the edge of the Grand Canyon before you FALL IN?
        God be with you,
        Ray


Email reply from Ray (http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,2798.msg20762.html#msg20762):

Dear Gloria:
        When you say "live together out of convenience" I assume you mean that they fornicate together, but don't want to commit to a long term relationship or a legal marriage, is that correct?  It's a sin. Just like any other adultery, fornication, homosexuality, etc.  The only legal sex in God's eyes is "married sex."
        God be with you,
        Ray


Marriage is a commitment not just a ceremony. It's never 'appropriate' to sleep with someone outside of marriage.

While a marriage 'ceremony' is not necessary (all the hoopla, church ceremony, etc.), some kind of ceremony that recognizes the commitment between the man & woman is. This can be done at a local courthouse or what not and the judge can be the only witness needed.

I would simply say to this 'someone': You can't serve two masters. Especially if this 'someone' knows the truths of God...the guilt would eat at them constantly. Ask anyone here about something that have struggled with and how whenever they give in, God brings it back to their remembrance. It makes you feel so guilty you don't want to do it again.


Hope this helps,

Marques

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