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Kat:
Mat 22:30 For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in Heaven.
We can assume that here Jesus is speaking about the first resurrection to life in this Scripture, because to be "as the angels" would mean that one is spirit, as "flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom."
1Co 15:50 And I say this, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God,
Now the rest of mankind would be raised back in the flesh as Ray has taught, so for them it would be a different matter. But for those in the first resurrection they are to be raised to be spirit, and I do not think they would be preoccupied with fleshly matters such as sex. I don't think those in the first resurrection would have fleshly desires at all, that's what being spirit means to me, not being hampered by the weaknesses of the carnal flesh. The Elect would have enough to do being about the Father's business of ruling with Christ :)
mercy, peace and love
Kat
DougE6:
I think the scriptures that Kat brought forth, seal the deal for me. I do not believe there is sex, at least the way we understand it, for the spiritual body. Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, because flesh is carnal, temporary, and earthly. The spiritual mind and body is NOT carnal, not temporary, not earthly. The flesh is weak, selfish, carnal, full of hidden corrupt desires. It cannot live forever, it must die.
And just speaking straight on...Sex always has a component of lust involved. In fact, I do not believe it is possible for climax to take place without lust being involved. , Psa 51:5 Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin did my mother conceive me. This is true ON MANY LEVELS
yes this verse has higher spiritual meanings too, but I think if you ask enough people, and they are honest, they would reveal that sex at its core, does have an element of selfish desire. Even the act that pro created all of us earthly fleshly beings, even if done in a loving marraige relationship, that act included desires that are intrinsically or inherently pleasurable because of lustful desires.
Gina:
Thanks, Kat and Doug.
JFK: You're a crack-up. Please enjoy the "hold" music while I formulate my response? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEtcoyeM3_k&feature=related
:-D
Rob M:
Not to turm this into sex education class or anything, but God created the human orgasm as one of the most pleasurable things we as humanbeings can experience. It's such an intence feeling of pleasure that we can only stand it for mere seconds, almost an out of body experience..very spirtual. I'm single, and if I am for the rest of my life I'll be missing out on this experience. Wonder what God will replace it with.
I hope you guys to see this post as being crass..just thinking out loud!!
Gina:
Hi, Rob
I'm not easily offended. I see what you're saying. I beg to differ slightly; I believe you mean it is THE most pleasurable thing anyone can experience.
Mind if I ask you some questions, JFK? (By the way, John, thanks so much for the challenge. I find looking up scripture to your questions most, um....stimulating, lol, and not boring AT ALL! I hope you and I will be in agreement when we're finished! ;) ;) ;D)
1. Why would men then choose to make themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom?
SCRIPTURAL BACKING: Matthew 19:12 For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.
2. Why is that verse of scripture I gave you insufficient? I mean, why would it be truer to you if I'd supplied you with two or three more? But I respect your right to question and so I will give you what you require.
Mark 12:25 For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.
Luke 20:35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage
Luke 20:36 for neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection.
3. How can we be having sex outside of marriage?
4. Have you not read that it is only when we are emotionally intertwined (not physically intertwined) that we become one?
(Comment: I've heard more than one man tell me (three, to be exact) that they can have sex with a woman and experience the "happy ending," if you will, and not even have to LIKE her. No emotional intertwining goin' on there. Yes, there are women out there who've done the same thing.)
You said,
--- Quote ---scripture seems to indicate that we will be male and female in the times to come.
--- End quote ---
5. How then do we explain this: Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. When it says there is NEITHER male nor female, am I supposed to conclude that there IS male and female? I'm seriously asking.
6. I would call having our tears wiped away and having no more sorrow--ECSTASY; what would you call it: Boring? ;)
7. Nome sayin?
Anyway, I love you John, and trust me, I've FELT your grief. And I'll bet you a million dollars it won't be boring.
Gina
p.s. This was fun!!
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