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Truth96130:
I see thank you.

Deborah-Leigh:
Hi Truth96130

When we come out of mainstream Christianity, some of the very first experiences we have with those we "leave behind" so to speak, is that they might try, try and try again, to get us to stay in their Church or their belief, or their fellowship. It is almost as if they were terrified that we are going to leave. It can appear that we should under all circumstances stay in the presumed safe confines of a Church community and at our peril, we leave, or are bluntly cast out, as is the painful experience with some of us!

As we come out of mainstream Christianity, it us usual that we have packed a bag of our favourite theologies or recipes for comfort that need be transformed into the real knowledge that our Comforter is the Spirit of Truth and not a man made doctrine.

Once we see the Truth and the Truth sets us free, it can become just like what happend to Jesus in the Scriptures about the pigs running of the ledge. The Tithe collecting institutions of man, don't primarily come to us afraid of loosing our humble tithe contributions. That might be the case with the millionaires of which I know of no none here in BTF~   We are just ordinary folks here.

So it is much more than that. When we learn and see the Truth, it seems as though members in mainstream Christianity, become afraid OF us which is veiled into the illusion of fear FOR us. Mainstream Christianity loves, worships, preaches and teaches Hell. 

They weren't afraid FOR Jesus and they are not afraid FOR anyone leaving the Church either and they are not trembling in their boots for the potential of loosing a nominal part of the Tithe. They are afraid OF Truth.

We all may have in common here in BTF the mutual experience of being rejected from out of our Church. We take the brunt of the fear and are rejected the minute the Light begins to shine in us as we start to see Truth and wake up out of the dark. We are persecuted when this happens and our comfortable Church fellowships turn to tell each other we are become demon possessed, lost or backslidden. It is not so much about finances. It is about possession. Man made institutions of man want to own you, Lord it over you and have you bow to them, body, soul and tithe.

With Ray Smith, the power of the Light of Truth is so bright through his teachings, that when Ray was invited to appear on a TV presentation together with some highly esteemed Church leaders, each one, and all of the leaders declined to appear on the program when they heard Ray was to join in the discussion. Their fear had turned to hate and such condition of derision against Ray is very clearly shown in the letters he receives from those who fear Truth.

This is not written to sound high or holy for we all have fallen short of the Glory of God. It is part of the process of God bringing all to salvation.

So we are all here to grow in the Truth of the expounded word of God as presented in Rays teachings. As we grow we become better equipped to accept that village folks don't like us, will stone us, will crucify us and condemn us, they will persecute and punish us and all this is because their  FEAR  of us, not for us. They FEAR the LIGHT of Truth that is Christ in us.

This is not to say we are better than anyone or higher in the esteem of God for His Children. We are all in the process of being made into the Image of Christ the One Son of God. All will be elect finally when God is all in all.


Like Jesus, the folks who knew of the pigs running amok, didn't ask Jesus to leave the village for loss of finances. They asked Him to leave because they were AFRAID of Him.

Here in the Forum, we suffer together the distinction of our own family members being aloof to our cherished understandings, and even our best friends leave us and depart from us. Even if we unite for a cup of tea or a rare social occasion, the glazed eye glossed over look that tolerates our passion and our love, is made clear in our gatherings where we are not accepted. We are quite practised in the exhortations to pay attention to the words and in this case the attention is in the absence of the word "finance", is conspicuously absent, as the Scriptural  reason why Jesus, was asked to leave. 

So enjoy your happy passage out of Babylon into the Glorious Liberating Light of Truth and Joy. 

Welcome to the Forum Truth 96130 ~

Arc

cheekie3:
Bible Truths Forum Members -

Has Ray ever taught about what Satan know today, etc, - like:

1. Does Satan believe he will be saved.
2. Does Satan see the "Hand of God" on His Called and Chosen Elect.
3. Satan cannot believe that God will save him otherwise he will stop being the Adversary.

Just curious, that's all.

Regards, George.

Kat:

Hi George,

I do not believe that Satan knows what is ahead and certainly not for himself, because he does not know the truth.

John 8:44  `Ye are of a father--the devil, and the desires of your father ye will to do; he was a man-slayer from the beginning, and in the truth he hath not stood, because there is no truth in him; when one may speak the falsehood, of his own he speaketh, because he is a liar--also his father. (YLT)

He has "no truth in him," and therefore would not believe or probably even understand God's plan of salvation and could not preceive that he would eventually be saved. He is a lair and the deceiver of the world and I think he is totally decieved.

Rev 12:9  And the great dragon was cast out, the old serpent called Devil, and Satan, who deceives the whole world. He was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

mercy, peace and love
Kat

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